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Old 07-25-08, 12:02 PM   #1
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Why don't people like cops?

I'm pretty tired of hearing everyone badmouth cops all the time. Why is it that the people that are here to protect us (which they are doing every time one catches a murderer, stops a drunk driver, finds a missing person, etc, etc, etc) are always getting badmouthed because they aren't doing their job to YOUR standards? If you can do it so much better then why don't you get off your lazy ass, stop working that bull**** job helping nobody and do something to give back to the public, something to serve your community. I'm tired of hearing how crooked cops are, how self righteous they are, and how poorly they're doing their jobs. They are hit, kicked, punched, spit on, talked down to, and disrespected too much by criminals to have to take it from "upstanding" citizens like the ones that are constantly saying how bad they are at their jobs.

rant over.
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Old 07-25-08, 12:06 PM   #2
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after that rant, no one's going to tell you, 'cause they know you're not gonna listen to what they have to say.
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Are you talking about the cops in Mauritania?

I think people don't like cops because cops have the power to seriously f u up. I work with cops every once in a while and you are right most of them are good people, very different then me, but good people none the less. And I've seen first hand the hell that cops can go through and would never ever want to have to deal with what they had to, in particular the brutality of murder.

Then again I don't often hear cops get bashed so much as they get pat on the back too.
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Bad cops get publicity. Good cops - not so much.

Also, cops typically need to be intimidating - at least when they are in situations where they don't feel comfortable. That attitude sticks in some peoples' minds.
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I'll listen for someone to raise a valid point but most are only bitter because they were caught doing something they shouldn't and they somehow blame the cop for it. My dad's been a cop for 24 years, step dad for 17 and mom was for 10. My dad found two heads on a shelf left there by a serial killer (Danny Rollings first two victims), my mom knew the third or fourth, and they have all been to hell and back for their jobs. Then as soon as anything is said about cops the reaction is that they are somehow doing something wrong and that most of them are corrupt.
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Old 07-25-08, 12:14 PM   #6
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Not the cops (or lack there of) in Mauritania. The only time I've ever heard of them doing anything here was when they had a shootout with some terrorist suspects. I'm talking America's cops. This is a carry over from the current red light thread. I just got on a rant.
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i don't know. i have some have this sort of asinine cocky atitude towards me. and one old cop i met had a really weird sense of humor. i haven't really had any problems with them except one that may have lied about me going through a red (i'm not sure if he was right or not).
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I like cops. They have a job to do and they do it. I try and tell them thank you when I can. I teach my boys to do the same.
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I like cops. They make excellent BBQ....I think all the donuts add some special flavor or something.
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I agree, I just ignore the bad mouthing of cops, since I figure it is usually malcontents doing the moaning. It is pretty easy for me since I have no friends or relatives that are law officers.

A cop in my area was pushed down the stairs in an apartment building recently in my area for asking to see someone's ID. Fortunately he wasn't hurt badly, and his partner was there to ensure the criminal was arrested... The guy did end up having a warrant already, and now has an additional charge on him.

I think cops have to have a certain attitude in order to establish control because of the people they tend to deal with for the majority of their job. In my experience (which is limited), if I have to deal with an officer, I treat him with respect immediately, and any gruff atitude I get initially disappears quickly when the officer sees that I am a cooperative individial.

I think an officer is trained (rightfully) to retain control of a situation, and the individuals that think that the officer is being a jerk to take control and starts giving attitude does nothing but ensure that the confrontational attitude continues. Sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. "All cops are idiots, so I am going to treat them like idiots!" is an attitude that I truly think is going to ensure that any cop/citizen interaction is going to be tense. A genuine "Yes sir" and "No sir" response to questions will make the whole process run so much smoother... It will even sometimes turn a ticket into a warning.
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I don't dislike them, they just make me nervous. And no, not always just because I'm doing something wrong...
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Old 07-25-08, 01:07 PM   #12
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Cops are just people like the rest of us. I know some that lie, cheat and steal just like the rest of us. There's the "blue code" that hides a lot of this. Heck, I know of a spot behind a shopping centre where they take turns parking and taking 2-3 hour naps everyday. Or if you sneak up there late at night, you'll find them shagging someone's wife. They're no better or worse than any other group of people, meaning half of them are below average.
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Old 07-25-08, 01:13 PM   #13
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It's the most noble job there is, next to teacher.
The few with poor attitudes make the rest look awful.


Example:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/wind...RT1MRB6RVJ5J50
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Many of the posters on that forum are LEO's.

The incumbent won by 78% btw. The challenger was backed by a for profit church, and largely perceived as being in the church's pocket.

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A job that requires honesty, bravery and integrity, the need to be in all places, pleasing all law-abiding people, all of the time and, as far as the public are concerned, complete knowledge and understanding of the law.

It's always going to create some friction especially if "targetted policing" gets used more than old fashioned "community policing", i.e., the police become strangers in a uniform that may be there to arrest you.
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Many of the posters on that forum are LEO's.

The incumbent won by 78% btw. The challenger was backed by a for profit church, and largely perceived as being in the church's pocket.
Let's not forget the wonderful episode in dekalb county when the sherriff offed his competition.

I'm starting to wonder if GA politics is taking lessons from LA politics.
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I work with cops everyday (I work the gate at a large apt. complex in a fairly craptastic neighborhood which features a Latino beer that has hosted it's fair share of shootings on one side and has a large selection of guys dressed as women type prostitutes on the other). The one that gave me attitude recently was a female detective that pushed her badge against her car window when I approached her car (she was parked in the driveway of the apt. complex trying to read the location map). She quickly changed her attitude though when I made it known that once I identified her as a cop I was there to be helpful, and showed her on my map where she wanted to go and gave her her own map to use.

The uniform patrols that work the property are great. We get along pretty well, and I even see them on my commute (they know I ride and know my route in their patrol area). Once they pulled a guy over that swerved in toward me (turned out the guy was DUI at 1:30 p.m., if they hadn't seen him messing with me they probably wouldn't have known).

The good cops are cool. The bad ones suck. Same as any other part of society except I'd rather have a cop watching my back then anyother segment of society.
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Let's not forget the wonderful episode in dekalb county when the sherriff offed his competition.

I'm starting to wonder if GA politics is taking lessons from LA politics.
We do have a few real winners don't we?

Louisiana politics, or Los Angeles?
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Louisiana politics, or Los Angeles?
not too much difference, is there? but I meant Louisiana (should have been a lower case a....I can be kind of stupid some/most of the time.)
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not too much difference, is there? but I meant Louisiana (should have been a lower case a....I can be kind of stupid some/most of the time.)
No, I was just trying to decide which was worse myself.
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I don't have a problem with cops, but I used to when I was younger. But back then, I had a problem with anyone in a position of authority. I think it has something to do with the religion I was raised in and the corruption I found there. Soon I was finding corruption everywhere including the law and even in my own family. I had a serious problem with people telling me what to do or how to live my life.

People don't do that to me anymore (for the most part) and if it ever happens, then I have little patience for it. But I don't really have a problem with cops unless I'm doing something illegal. I understand that they have a job to do, and I usually don't give them a reason to bother me.
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You can answer this question yourself, if you wish. Do something, anything, that will put you at the mercy of a random police officer.

Observe the rules of conduct while you are detained and DO NOT TELL THEM YOUR FOLKS ARE COPS.

You can be sure this will be a fair test and valid experiment. Let us know what happened.
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I like cops. My sister is one.
Like anything else, a few bad apples give the whole bunch a sour rep...
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Just like all other people in the world, there are good cops and bad cops. The difference is that most of the *******s in the world don't bother me and when they do I can fight back either physically or legally. If you value your freedom and physical well-being there isn't much you can do about an ******* cop.

The real resentment, I believe, comes from the fact that cops don't face the same consequences for bad behavior as the rest of us. That goes for little things like speeding and running red lights up to lying, stealing, extorting, and murdering.
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I Don't have any issue with the uniformed street officers.....now the "undercover" narco/vice officers,THAT is another story. More than once I have seen them lie in Court to win a case,hijack personal property (Cash/Drugs) and abuse laws to get their Perp/win their case! Sorry if his offends anyone,jus tellin ya'll what I've seen over the years.
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I don't have a problem with the officers here for the most part. I know a few of them. I do have a problem with the one who arrested two of my friends for cutting through the park on longboards. I also have a problem with the one who ran his car into my friend to tell him not to skate on the street.
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