Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 11 of 11
  1. #1
    Senior Member WilliamK1974's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    East Ridge, TN
    My Bikes
    Schwinn World, Haro Flightline Sport
    Posts
    248
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Anyone out there familiar with camera repair?

    While getting my Nikon N8008 ready to go to a concert tonight, I was testing its operation in its various modes. I'd planned to use Aperture Priority for most of the pics. I couldn't help but notice when I activated that setting, the camera was acting as though the lens was set at f22 no matter where it was actually set.

    Close examination showed a projection on a ring attached to the camera body was supposed to rest against a notch on the lens's aperture ring. I could gently turn the ring and the camera would respond. I was able to get it to read the correct f-stop in one direction. But it wouldn't follow when going in the other direction. If I turned the ring, it felt scratchy.

    A small spring controls that ring, and it appears to have broken off at one end, which explains in part why it's acting the way it does.

    My mother in law gave me this camera a couple of years ago when she upgraded. I really appreciate it and have taken some good pics with it. I know this can be made to work as-is, but it requires extra thought, if that makes sense. In a pinch, I might forget about it, and I like my things to work right if possible. Other than this, the camera appears to be in good shape.

    I don't have anything in it other than the batteries and film I've used. I haven't yet bought any additional lenses for it. But it's probably the nicest camera I have and I couldn't realistically replace it right now. I guess I'm asking if it's worth the trip to the local camera shop.

    Thank you,
    -Bill

  2. #2
    Senior Member bhop's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Los Angeles
    My Bikes
    Bianchi Via Nirone 7, Jamis Sputnik
    Posts
    1,889
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I've repaired some older manual cameras. (most recently my Canonet from the 70's..) but I think for an AF camera like that, if you can't fix it yourself, you might be better off just getting a new (used) one than shelling out for repairs. The N8008 can be found for under a hundred bucks on ebay, many that I just looked at are less than $75.
    keh.com, a used camera seller/website has some for as low as $23 (probably beat up, but working)

  3. #3
    Senior Member WilliamK1974's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    East Ridge, TN
    My Bikes
    Schwinn World, Haro Flightline Sport
    Posts
    248
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Have you ever bought anything from them that was BGN grade? There are a couple of cameras on there in that category that would be well within whatever limited amount of money I'd be able to spend. One's similar to my 8008 and the other's the next camera up. Either one's pretty tempting

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    998
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Its really hard to find quality camera repair shops these days, especially for vintage cameras like the N8008 and older. I remember when one place was able to fix a Baldamatic's completely mechanical light sensor without issue.

    Now, people just tell you to pitch the camera and buy the latest D-SLR.

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    584
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Your camera problem is a sad commentary on our society. We live in a world of disposable stuff, where it's considered a better idea to get rid of something when it could, or should, be repaired. It's perceived as being more efficient because the technology changes and people would rather spend their money on the new and improved thing than invest in the repair of the old trusty thing. Shame.

    We don't have many camera repair shops around here, either. You might find, as I did, that the price of repair is estimated to be greater than the price of a new item. Remember, though, that there is a difference between price and cost.

    One solution, if you feel you can't justify the price of sending the camera to the shop for repair, would be to buy a book and try to repair it yourself. It aint rocket science. It's just a mechanical device with really tiny parts. If you think the thing will just be a loss anyway, what have you got to lose?

  6. #6
    Senior Member WilliamK1974's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    East Ridge, TN
    My Bikes
    Schwinn World, Haro Flightline Sport
    Posts
    248
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The camera will still work, it just takes a little more thought than it did before. If I want to use a program mode or aperture priority, I use the toothpick on my Swiss Army knife to nudge the broken part around to where it's supposed to be. Not the fastest way, but good enough.

    The sad comment to me is that the camera isn't designed to make repair easy. Older cameras look like they were made by hand; cameras like mine and the ones which have come since then look like they were poured in a mold. I know it's possible to take a modern camera apart, but that task is not as intuitive as it used to be. I'm kind of afraid that this problem is a symptom of worse things to come. The camera has alot of miles on it. I have to ask, keiththesnake, are you criticizing me for what you see as my willingness to look at a new camera, or criticizing the camera for seeming disposable?

    The reason I haven't torn right into it is because it's still functional. It would be really irritating to come close to having it fixed only to cause another more serious problem.

    If I replace it, I'm not replacing it with something new. Both cameras I've looked at as possible replacements are roughly contemporaneous with mine. I'd like to add a Pentax Spotmatic to the mix, but that may not be realistic for money reasons.

  7. #7
    Senior Member tizeye's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Orlando, FL
    My Bikes
    1985 Falcon, 2008 Jamis Dakota Sport
    Posts
    102
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Since I got into photography in the 1970's I've used Southern Photo Technical Service. In colege, the local camera shop use to ship all repairs to them. It was their shop in Orlando. Looking on the web, see several with same name, with the closest to you in North Carolina. Don't know if they are the same shop or not.

  8. #8
    Blasted Weeds Tude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Rochester, NY
    My Bikes
    Trek 1200C, Specialized Rockhopper, Giant Yukon FX, Giant Acapulco
    Posts
    1,182
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Had a nice little nikon (bout $250) that dropped about 4 yrs ago. Checked around for camera repair - and they wanted $75 to just open it up. Never did anything with it - instead went digital.

  9. #9
    Senior Member Sangetsu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    363
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    That ring is what turns the blades in the lens aperture when the shutter is opened. It sounds as though the return spring or linkage has somehow become broken. The N 8008 was a rather complicated early AF camera designed for casual photography, it was not designed to be as durable as the "F" or later model "D" cameras. But even so, the problem you are describing is very rare. I can't remember if the 8008 has a aperture preview button or not (usually located on the body next to the lens mount, when pressed, it allows you to see the image in the viewfinder with the aperture at the selected setting). If it does have such a button, you can hold it down as you take your pics, and they will come out normally. If not, then you are out of luck. Take your camera to a shop and get an estimate, I don't think it should cost that much to fix.

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    584
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamK1974 View Post
    ... I have to ask, keiththesnake, are you criticizing me for what you see as my willingness to look at a new camera, or criticizing the camera for seeming disposable?

    The reason I haven't torn right into it is because it's still functional. It would be really irritating to come close to having it fixed only to cause another more serious problem.

    If I replace it, I'm not replacing it with something new. Both cameras I've looked at as possible replacements are roughly contemporaneous with mine. I'd like to add a Pentax Spotmatic to the mix, but that may not be realistic for money reasons.
    No, man, I'm not criticizing. I think we've all suffered something like the spot you're in with your camera. It's a gamble to repair something old, to pour money into it, only to find yet another problem soon. It's nice to have new stuff, too. I guess I just meant that we're now programmed to dispose of our stuff and to replace it. I find that sad. A generation ago, people fixed their broken stuff a lot more. That kind of frugality is appealing to me. Still, I often find myself replacing rather than repairing, so your post struck a chord. There's a sensitivity analysis that takes place. I was just projecting, I guess. That's all.

  11. #11
    Senior Member WilliamK1974's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    East Ridge, TN
    My Bikes
    Schwinn World, Haro Flightline Sport
    Posts
    248
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangetsu View Post
    That ring is what turns the blades in the lens aperture when the shutter is opened. It sounds as though the return spring or linkage has somehow become broken. The N 8008 was a rather complicated early AF camera designed for casual photography, it was not designed to be as durable as the "F" or later model "D" cameras. But even so, the problem you are describing is very rare. I can't remember if the 8008 has a aperture preview button or not (usually located on the body next to the lens mount, when pressed, it allows you to see the image in the viewfinder with the aperture at the selected setting). If it does have such a button, you can hold it down as you take your pics, and they will come out normally. If not, then you are out of luck. Take your camera to a shop and get an estimate, I don't think it should cost that much to fix.
    Actually, the ring I'm talking about follows a notch on the aperture ring of the lens. All it does is report back to the camera's CPU where the aperture is set. If I set the lens on f/22, which is its most closed point, the program modes will still work and the camera is capable of adjusting the aperture mechanically from inside. At the right angle, looking thru the lens, you can see this happening when you fire the shutter. Program mode's ok, but that takes an SLR and turns it into a p&s. Other non-program modes will work, but that requires double-checking to make sure that ring is set properly.

    My mother-in-law gave me this camera a couple of years ago after she upgraded. She's had it since new and used it quite often. That family used to take all kinds of vacation trips, including at least one trip to the beach every summer. That's my biggest worry. I'm afraid this is a symptom of worse things to come. I don't know, of course, nor do I want it to be. But most of the external screws are rusty. Since this spring broke off inside the camera, it makes me wonder what else could be rusty inside. I don't want rid of the camera cause it's been a good one. I'd love to augment its standard issue zoom lens with a nice Nikkor AF 50mm f/1.4 prime lens. This problem coming up just has me wondering about its overall longevity.

    There is a camera shop in town. I may run it out there tomorrow and see what they have to say.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •