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Old 08-05-08, 02:00 PM   #51
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Until I read Fast Food Nation and the Omnivore's Dilemma I had no idea how much I'd been spoiled growing up. I grew up in a very small town and we got our meat from the livestock auction at the county fair each summer. We'd get a pig and a side of beef each year. You'd also get a picture of the animal with the kid who raised it as their 4H or FFA project. And my sister raised lambs. (I tried 4H one year but it wasn't for me.) We had no illusions that these were once living creatures.

My wife, on the other hand, grew up in the LA suburbs. She thought that pork chops came from a giant machine in the back of Ralph's.
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What's your issue? I have personal morals that I'm not forcing on anyone else. Why so edgy about this?
Yes you're right, you weren't telling other people how they should eat. My apologies.

(There's one very specific thing that sets me off. The idea that humans shouldn't eat meat at all, i.e., people telling others that they shouldn't eat meat. You didn't do that.)

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If a burger makes you feel ill, you are deader to me than you were before I read that. Of course you should eat a burger, enough with the silly talk already.
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Tried to amend my carnivorous habits
Made it nearly seventy days
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My main message was simply to embrace the animal within.

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Trust me, I do plenty of that without bringing carnivorous products into the picture. I think if I ever did start eating meat again, my animalistic gauge would go through the roof.
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If you choose to eat veggie for health reasons, fine. But moral grounds? Just look in the mirror and smile. What do you see? Incisors and canines. Are you better than the natural history of your species? Yeah, bite me. We are ANIMALS who eat ANIMALS as a natural part of our existence. Object to factory farming? Fine. But girljen and caloso have given good suggestions to ease those concerns.
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Why oh why are you hostile to people who have different belief systems than you? Do you also rant about Jews who don't eat lobster? Amish who won't use internal combustion engines?

The biological argument is absurd. Do you also believe that girls should start having babies at 13 or 14 since that is when they become biologically fit to do so? Will you tell your teenage daughter it's ok to screw her boyfriend without protection or is it ok for her to be better than the natural history of her species? Does your wife or girlfriend shave her legs? If so, you should probably tell her to bite you too. We are ANIMALS who have hair on our legs for a reason.
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Hamburgers have ridiculous names. There's no ham in them. Besides, I like to think that the term "burger" is defined by a bun, fixins and a patty of some sort.
The first "Hamburger" was invented by a New York harbour restaurant attempting to copy a meal their customers had raved about that was served in Hamburg harbour. "Hamburg"er, get it?

The original meal had a beef patty on a plate on a slice of bread with gravy and vegetables, sometimes still served in restaurants today as an "open faced" hamburger sandwich. The bun and fixins came later.

In Britain they renamed it the "Salisbury Steak" because they were always at war with Germany and didn't like German names for their food (remember "Freedom Fries"?). Same reason the Brits refer to German Shepherds as "Alsatians".

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Meat is one of my favorite things on Earth, I once ate a 20 oz steak in one sitting, and it was GOOD
I had a two pound steak once, and it was wonderful.

I totally respect the views of vegans, but I'll go with one of the few things I agree with G. Gordon Liddy on - "you are an Upper Paleolithic Hunter Gatherer. You are an opportunistic omnivore. Its OK to eat meat."
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Trust me, I do plenty of that without bringing carnivorous products into the picture. I think if I ever did start eating meat again, my animalistic gauge would go through the roof.
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Why oh why are you hostile to people who have different belief systems than you? Do you also rant about Jews who don't eat lobster? Amish who won't use internal combustion engines?
I apologized and explained in the post above.

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I hate meat for the most part...but I loves me a good burger.
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If you're craving a burger, perhaps there's something in your diet that's lacking. Proteins, perhaps, or iron, or something else. Of course it could just be habitual (even after some time), but if I was in your shoes I'd check to make sure there aren't any dietary deficiencies.
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Yes you're right, you weren't telling other people how they should eat. My apologies.

(There's one very specific thing that sets me off. The idea that humans shouldn't eat meat at all, i.e., people telling others that they shouldn't eat meat. You didn't do that.)
Accepted. No worries, buddy.
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The only purpose for domestic beef cattle is food. By not having a burger you rob some poor steer of his lifes purpose If you really want one , go for it
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If you choose to eat veggie for health reasons, fine. But moral grounds? Just look in the mirror and smile. What do you see? Incisors and canines. Are you better than the natural history of your species? Yeah, bite me. We are ANIMALS who eat ANIMALS as a natural part of our existence. Object to factory farming? Fine.
This is basicly my feelings ^^^^ but will not question someone if their moral do not allow them to eat meat .

the people I don't understand are the one that are ok with a seafood but not land animals ?

or these guys (taken from time magazine online letters)

pesco-pollo-vegetarians: beady-eyed vegetarians. Basically, they'll eat things with beady eyes (lobster, fish, chicken) but not with big, sad, Bambi eyes (cows, lambs). This definition sounds flaky, but a friend of mine explained it by saying he would eat only things he thought he could kill himself. He figures he can kill a fish but not a cow. That seems like a more honest and consistent rationale than some of the others I've heard.

under this definition ...... blue whale it's whats for dinner I'm pretty sure I could kill one if I had a boat to get to one (no I don't want to kill a whale)

I do not agree with force feeding geese for Foie gras or Some type of veal prodution

I do think anyone that eats meat should have to kill and butcher their own meat at least once for a dose of reality
My favorite burger : groung round on the grill (charcoal) loraine swiss mayo lettuce and tomato
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Better yet... The person who orders a huge burger then goes for the diet soda...
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I made it from burger leftovers.
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Better yet... The person who orders a huge burger then goes for the diet soda...
hey...I do that....only cause I'm a diabetic though. The burgers are bad enough, no need to overload the system with sugar.
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Are any of you old enough to remember Alex Karras' Faygo diet pop commercials?

Voice: "Alex, what about the pizza?"

Alex: "Silly, Faygo doesn't make diet pizza!"
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hey...I do that....only cause I'm a diabetic though. The burgers are bad enough, no need to overload the system with sugar.
Well you've got a legit excuse. My dad's the same way. It's those other people who are trying to "eat healthy" that crack me up.
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Well you've got a legit excuse. My dad's the same way. It's those other people who are trying to "eat healthy" that crack me up.
Eating healthy isn't an all or nothing proposition.

For some people* a tasty burger's deliciousness is worth the damage you do to yourself by eating it and the lesser deliciousness of a regular soda is not worth the damage it does to you. Of course I mostly just drink water, unsweetened tea, or beer, but that doesn't detract from my point.


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I just ate a Carls Jr's Jalapeno Burger. It was delicious. Now, I didn't get the combo, because the fries are part of what is the killer in a fast-food meal. And you know what? I don't feel bloated and weird because I passed up the fries.
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i guess it depends on your reasons for being a veggie.

If you are going to, don't do fast food. THAT would make you sick either way. BLEH. Although I saw this commercial the other day from mc donalds saying their burgers were all beef. Thats surprising, but um, what part of the cow?

Come on over, I'll throw some delicious burgers on the grill.
Or actually, the group I'm cycling with is grilling out after our ride. Bet with your new wheels you could make the BBQ by 7 CST!
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If you're going to eat beef, at least eat good beef. I almost never eat beef these days, but every time I'm in Texas I eat a steak. They know cows in Texas.
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I do think anyone that eats meat should have to kill and butcher their own meat at least once for a dose of reality
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I do my own thing (I'm vegan) and respect everyone's right to do their own thing. I don't like to discuss farming or any related topics with non-vegans (unless someone specifically asks me). Most of my friends are omnivores and I am dating a confirmed meat-lover.

But I have to admit, I roll my eyes at the people who can only buy pre-packaged ready-to-cook (or ready-to-eat) meat and don't want to think about where it comes from.
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