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Old 02-05-04, 12:53 PM   #1
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Laptop choices???

For all the geeks out there, I'm looking for a laptop- I will be doing powerpoint presentations, so I'll need something that will wow 'em, plus I have wifi, and since my nephews come to visit, I'd like for them to be able to play their video games on (they are serious gamers). In addition, I'll be downloading pictures from my digital cameras onto the laptop also, and I'll need something where I can burn audio CDs for my aerobics classes, and when I travel, I'd like to be able to watch movies. I would like to have a maximum amount of memory with the ability to expand. I want the laptop to be fast. I would like for it to be light- under 7 pounds. I like a crisp screen too. I would like for it to be ergomatically inclined, and I would like to have a longer battery life- like 8 hours or so. I also want something that's not going to be obsolete in the next year- it sucks when you get something and it upgrades in 2 months. Most definitely, I need an infrared port too, because the stuff I exercise with and train with require that I have the infrared technology to download the information onto the laptop. I definitely want nothing less than a 56k modem, ethernet, and a LAN wireless. I'd like to have Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Norton Antivirus (if possible) as well as the Norton Firewall, and Powerpoint.

What is the difference between a pentium 4 processor and an Intel Pentium M processor? How does that affect the performance of a laptop?

Basically, I see myself on the go and out and about quite a bit, especially internationally, and I'll be married to my laptop. I don't know a lot about computers and that kind of technology. My brother was supposed to help, but every time I call him, he's busy working on his projects, so I was hoping I could get some ideas on what my options are and where I can go to get a good price for a laptop, so if you have an idea of where I can go to buy it, I'd appreciate it too.

Thanks to everyone for any help!

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Old 02-05-04, 01:00 PM   #2
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The M is for Mobile. You want soemthing with Centrino Technology. The Dell Latitude D500 may be D510 this year is nice. We have about 100 of them where i work and they are abused daily and always stand up to it.
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I have an IBM T40 thinkpad that gets beat up on
a daily basis (use as my desktop at work). Really nice
works well with all apps.
couple of co-workers have t23's and they are not
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Get this
http://www.apple.com/powerbook/index12.html

And get Keynote, It is only $99 and blows away PowerPoint from ease of use, flexability, and apperance, standpoints basically PP is in no way superior to Keynote, ask the PP users in my wifes grad program that have to give a Presentation after her.

I believe the Powerbook also comes with Ilife, which includes Imovie, a great application that I have used for business presentations which really floor people, they think I am a computer genious (no, just a Mac owner). The presentations I made on Imovie I distributed on DVDs which I burned with I DVD (get the PB with the superdrive and you can burn DVDs). Itunes is great I have not really used any other similar programs to compare it to though, same with IPhoto, but no complaints, I have not used Garage band but it looks awesome. OS X kills XP, no comparison, its faster, more stable and far more consistant. If you get a PB it will be viable for may years to come, I have a 12" PB and an IBM laptop (same RAM the IBM has a faster processer if you are measuring Mhz.) and its like heaven and hell. Go to the apple store on Michigan Ave, see the applications and play with their machines. PBs have inferred and built in wireless, as well as firewire and I believe USB2.

Also if you are a student you can get killer student discounts on software and hardware through your school. The two MS apps you will need are Excell and Word, but they run better on a Mac anyway, Bill Gates said that.
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Dont bother with the Macs in 2 months it will be old and unsupported.
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Dont bother with the Macs in 2 months it will be old and unsupported.
I also have an Imac that is 6 years old and it works better than my 6 month old Thinkpad. I have heard similar complaints from MS users as well, I find in general that most Mac users are better with Windows than MS users, and most knocks on Macs are born of ignorance.

Last month I installed OSX.3 on my parents 3 year old IMac runs perfect, How well do you think "Longhorn"? will support old hardware???????

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i am a sytems admin in a business with 50% Apple (500 machines) and 50% Windows (500 machines) in MY experience PC laptops are more bang for the buck. Apple laptops however hold value better. As far as service goes Dell gives way service because they offer onsite repair. I have a iBook 900, iMac DV 500, Custom Built PC, and a Dell laptop. They have all broken etc. You are better off buying A PC Koffee. Especially if you are using the infared for fitness equipment there is a better chance of finding drivers and software for the Windows Operating System. The rest is easy to find, DVD, CDRW drive nice screen etc. Just make sure you buy a good service plan.
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I would take the Mac

Really go check them out.. They run MS applications better...
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Unless you enjoy hearing "sorry they dont make that for the Mac" dont bother.
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I though i heard it all.....
"Really go check them out.. They run MS applications better..."
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Price em out a Dell with Mac specs WILL be more expensive and not have near the software. Just go to the Mac store and check it out its worth the trip even if you get a widoze box, oh yeah Mac got the best marks for service and reliability according to consumer reports.
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i swear you love disagreeing with me temp1
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Dell sucks...go for something nice, like a Toshiba laptop.
FYI - Dell OEMs their laptops from Acer
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Toshiba laptops are the biggest pieces of **** on the market. get a clue.
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THere are worse. They are among the crap.
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On this point we are brothers:


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Toshiba laptops are the biggest pieces of **** on the market. get a clue.
Before my rents had a Mac they had a Toshiba desktop, it never worked, the guy who sold it to them could not get it to work, never again a Toshiba!
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Here is another point we see eye to eye on... Sort of
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Unless you enjoy hearing "sorry they dont make that for the Mac" dont bother.
That used to be the case, and still is with a lot of business software, case in point MAS90/MAS200 (the sole reason I have a PC), other than that I have been able to find every thing I want.
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Don't forget

You can run Virtual PC and that solves your argument


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Thats pointless. By the time you buy the mac and the software why bother. If you dont need a mac to begin with or already have one it's pointless.
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That's my point

You can run AppleWorks and it gives you everything office does but better.
The Mac will work on any network and you don't need special drivers for anything.

You can run Quicken, Intuit QuickBooks, PalmDeskTop, all the current games and the machine will stay running... It's about finding what meets your needs and so many people just go for price when in the long run you end up paying more.... I still am going to suggest the Mac because on a day to day basis the OS is much better.... iCal alone kicks anything that MS can come up with...
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Thats pointless. By the time you buy the mac and the software why bother. If you dont need a mac to begin with or already have one it's pointless.
Agreeing so much is starting to get booring! Virtual PC works, but it is s l o w.

Back to recruting
http://www.apple.com/switch/
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iCal alone kicks anything that MS can come up with...
Don't forget Safari, Ilife suite, Keynote, Mail, Final Cut, Isync (the PB comes with Bluetooth), Shake, Fontbook, Expose', a superior graphics converter, Sherlock, and some free add ins, Omni outliner, and Omni Graffle.

Ever have problems installing drivers? With a Mac throw away the disc, just plug it in and it works.

Excell and Word are better than Appleworks IMO, but they work seamlessly on a Mac. Appleworks can read Office docs, as well as save docs in word and excell, but watch out a PC is not smart enough to put a .doc or whatever after the doument's name to open it. There are also some formating issues.
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Toshiba laptops are the biggest pieces of **** on the market. get a clue.
Get a clue...witty. I have had my Toshiba since 99 - not a single problem. But I guess Dell's are like that also, until you power them up.
I would think someone of your stature (Network Support) would have something more to say on this. Sounds like someone has a case of "Nick Burns"

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Wanna see something cool? Check out a 15" or 17" PowerBook, the letters on the keys light up through fiber optics when the computer sences a dimming of the ambiant lighting.
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Koff, you can find alot of great notebooks that will do what your looking for, however, none will be made for travel. I don't know if that is a risk you would want to take if you plan on taking the notebook with you via bicycle.

My choice? The Panasonic Toughbook 29

It's a some what slower machine, the the toughbook series is made to last. This would be the machine i would take for any time of extended travel. Unless you get to your destination in a BMW and hand carry the laptop to your corporate desk.
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