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Old 08-13-08, 08:13 PM   #1
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What is it with today's young people?

I stayed overnight for 2 nights at my jobsite which was out in the middle of no where, about 60 miles from where I live. Basically we worked for a township and demolished 2 abandoned farm houses. I didn't feel like making such a huge commute, especially since we were starting work at 330, so I set my tent up and slept their for 2 nights.

The older guy that was running the site thought the idea was cool, but none of the younger people on the crew could possibly understand how I could handle 5 or 6 hours in the evening without tv or a computer. I had fun, I got to explore the town, talk with people at several stores I visited about the area, eat at a nice little restaurant, and then fix my hammer which I just busted another handle on. Finally, after setting my tent up, I got to watch an exceedingly beautiful sunset, followed by some great star gazing that couldn't have been done in my crappy neighborhood. None, I repeat none of the people under 30 could understand why I enjoyed this. Maybe the fact that most of them are from socal has something to do with it, but still, I was rather disgusted to see how addicted to media devices younger people are becoming.

Does anyone else see youthful computer and TV addiction as a disturbing trend?
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ADD, and the constant need to be 'entertained'
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I've got ADD, but I don't think that many of the people at work do.
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makes sense to me, and i'm even a bit of a computer nerd. But then I'm also damn near 30
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I'm a huge computer nerd, and probably my time logged at foo is a testament to that. The difference is, I'm incredibly versatile- I'll make do with what entertainment I have and often like nothing more than to get away from technology for awhile.

I'm also not a tv, video game or online game person. I'm not intending to get cable tv hooked up at my new residence, and may forgo internet, too.
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What is wrong with those kids?

Get off my lawn!

Freaking oldies. When will they ever learn?
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But you don't have a lawn. Do you even have a couch?
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But you don't have a lawn. Do you even have a couch?
He has a couch made of grass.
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I was just talking to my mom on the phone. She's a librarian, and she agrees with me that this is becoming more and more of a problem. My suggestion is that people throw away their ****ing TV's, stay away from video games, limit internet time, and spend more time outside. There's no better place to be.

As much as I love The Wild Bunch, I think when Sam Peckinpah introduced the rapid shot change way of filming he really messed up people's attention spans and made it much easier for people to get bored. It's a problem I don't see going away.
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I have a van like that.

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I got 2 of my friends to come camping with me for a night. No parents no cell phones no internet. It was one of the funnest times I've had all summer. I think its just your batch of youngins because I am a very technological person that loves doing things such as what you did on your experience. And I know I'm not alone.
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I've got to say that it seems that that is the way a lot of people my age (21) and younger seem to feel...Myself, I am a complete nerd. I build computers and can spend hours in front of them playing with even nerdier technological stuff like making websites. But there's nothing quite like getting away from it all. There are some times I think that if I lived in a tent that I carried around on my bike and just stayed wherever I happened to pedal to that night my life would be more fulfilling than it is when I'm surrounded by computers, xbox's, cell phones and all that...

So while I agree with you, don't lump us together too much some of us wouldn't miss stargazing, camping, and small town socializing for anything
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I'm also not a tv, video game or online game person. I'm not intending to get cable tv hooked up at my new residence, and may forgo internet, too.
So I take it you go out in evening often?

I live close enough to trails I go night trail running at night when everyone is cozy in their living room watching the latest sitcoms. Lots of recreational activities such as swimming pools, concert, bars, ice rink with night sessions for use. There's plenty of things to do at night, people just need to get out more.

If anyone have kids on this board, I highly recommend a week long camping trip without any electronics except headlamps and GPS (if you are good with maps and compass, forgo the GPS). Good luck stopping teens and young adults from going insane before the first night.
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If I'm not at my house I don't feel the need to use electronics . . .like on vacation there was a computer but I didn't care. I think at home I'm just bored and there isn't much to do so I go on here. I'm also one of pretty much noone that doesn't text ever and I don't go on aim either. But that is just me.
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I think technology addiction is a problem for all ages. Young people just have less responsibility so they have more time to fiddle with crap. Regarding the camping out, I'm 24 and have found the opposite to be true. More often I hear, "Why are you doing that?" from older people than people my own age. Most older people attribute it to "being young", which begs me to ask, "What is it with today's old people?".
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ADD, and the constant need to be 'entertained'
I *have* ADHD, and camping is one of the few things that calms me right down

My boyfriend, on the other hand, also has ADHD and thinks that camping is the equivalent of a Siberian gulag. He starts to twitch if you take him away from the computer for more than an hour. He's 36, though, so not really a "youngin."

My current peeve with young people is how so few of them seem to take any responsibilities seriously. I'm working part time at a pet-food store for the sumemr, and I couldn't figure out why the owner and manager kept fussing over me and saying how happy they were to have me on staff... then I saw THREE new hires pull no call/no shows in the space of a week. All of them under 23. One of them sent her MOM in to make excuses.

I think I had a point, but I forget what it was. Oh well.
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Does anyone else see youthful computer and TV addiction as a disturbing trend?
Having had a great night out in the sticks a couple weeks ago, I share your bewilderment. At the same time, the more of them that spend their Friday nights in dark clubs and movie theatres, the less they interfere with my spending time with this stuff:

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I absolutely love getting out and exploring new places. Used to take off by myself when I was a kid and live in the fields and swamps till I had to come home to eat and leave right after.

Now I love it on my solo rides.

Used to have one of my many side jobs of working with a glass blower and travel with her (I was the grunt btw - glass is heavy) and we'd travel to fine art festivals across NY - cool - (hard working) Summers - but we'd pull into a town and I looked first for ----- motel, liquor store, convenience store, restaurant - in that order - and if all were present I was a happy camper as I would leave her when everything was settled and go explore.

Even better if there was a carnival, etc going on as I would go there too.

Couple weekends ago I camped - with people, but by myself, at a triathlon and was basically "odd" person out as they were all couples but I had fun working the triathlon and then go hiking/climbing on my own.

People miss it by not getting outside and enjoying life. And ya don't need company either.
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I'm only 23, I don't mind tagging along someone else's camp trip, but wouldn't bother doing it myself.
And I'm absolutely one of those internet addicts who like to be entertained 24/7.
not that I don't go out on an expedition with my bike with no form of entertainment once in a while when I get fed up with life.

music running when going to bed, check
games or TV shows when awake, check
bike ride with earphones, check
radio talk shows while browsing BF, check
music while studying, check

Biggest highlight of the most recent camping trip I've done (5yrs ago?)...
I managed to put out a sausage fire with another sausage.
I'd do it again, but I just don't have the camping skills or BBQ skills, unless you like to camp with desperate creativity

what was I talking about, oh right, if I was working there, I'd totally camp with you.
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So I take it you go out in evening often?
Occasionally, but I'm really only social on the weekends. I'm somewhat of a homebody during the week- usually get some rides and runs in after work, then by the time I come home and cook dinner/do a little around the house... I'm ready to turn in. I just wind down on BF or read a book before I crash.
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Now you have me feeling like a bad parent….The kids have been begging me all summer to take them camping, I always make up some excuse. Maybe I’ll set up the tent this weekend down at the creek. We’ve spent a few nights out by the pool star gazing though so I’m not a total loser dad I suppose. We picked up a Wii a in June brought it home and set it up and tested everything played a few days with it and I packed it back up and told the kids we’ll get it back out “when the leaves change colors”
One of our neighbors kids (boy 7) doesn’t even come out of his house because of his game systems and the PC, when he does come over to play or our kids go over to his house he’s ready to go back in after 20 minutes or so.
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A guy at my office is so addicted to texting that he actually would stop a sentence mid-stream if his phone went off. Last month, I was having a design review meeting and he actually got up and left the room to text with someone. He stood in the hallway for 10 minutes texting during the review, so when the meeting was over, I asked him to come to my office, and I had a little chat with him.

Note to texters, it is a seriously unwise career decision to get up and leave a meeting being hosted by your manager to play with your cell phone.
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I've been seeing a number of people at work texting when they should be working. In Michigan they would have been fired on the spot if a single warning didn't permanently fix the situation, but with the lazy attitude of the southwest, no one cares.
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I've been seeing a number of people at work texting when they should be working. In Michigan they would have been fired on the spot if a single warning didn't permanently fix the situation, but with the lazy attitude of the southwest, no one cares.
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