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Old 08-25-08, 10:18 PM   #1
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Most overrated films?

soon to be followed by most overrated cowbell meisters, least successful thermin players of hollywood, etc

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Star Wars, and all super hero movies.
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I was gonna say Star Wars, but figured I was pushing my luck.

You've enboldened me, so :

Pretty much all post 1975 Clint Eastwood, especially his 'masterpiece', Unforgiven

everything woody allen's done since Annie Hall except for Crimes and Misdemeanors and maybe Hannah and her sisters.
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I liked Unforgiven, but it sure wasn't common Clint Material. More of an apology for all his silliness of the past.
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soon to be followed by most overrated cowbell meisters, least successful thermin players of hollywood, etc

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The Matrix
Bullitt ( I love it - but is it really THAT good?)
Brazil

Citizen Kane (ducking for cover - flames are sure to be shooting this way)
Pulp Fiction
I completely agree with you. I feel the same way about Casablanca too. Very good film? Yes. One of the best of all time? Sorry - not to me. Gone with the Wind? I hate that movie. It is Boooooooring. The Godfather (and just about any "mob" film), just don't do it for me either. ET? meh. Titanic? I'll save you the 3+ hours. It sinks!

Frankly, I'd rather watch Chitty-Chitty Bang-Bang than any of the ones mentioned above.
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a recent highly overrated film:

lost in translation

It would have made a fine short film, but it didnt seem to have the material for a feature length
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Old 08-25-08, 11:11 PM   #8
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Any of the Lord of the Rings movies.

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All those over hyped four star horrors that have a deep meaning.......PLEASE!!!!! I want shallow and meaningless drek that makes me laugh and forget about reality for a while!!!!
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Lawrence Of Arabia - boring beyond belief
Saving Private Ryan - nonsensical plot, pointless drama, lame dialog
latest Batman flick - f'ing CGI is ruining current film making
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Gone with the Wind? I hate that movie. It is Boooooooring. The Godfather (and just about any "mob" film), just don't do it for me either. ET? meh. Titanic? I'll save you the 3+ hours. It sinks!
LOL and I totally agree with your take on Gone With The Wind. Pretentious crapola.
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The Godfather Movies.. didnt like any of them.. sorry
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how can great movies be overrated? saying Citizen Kane is overrated is like saying Lance rode a bicycle for a few years.

What makes those movies great is not just that the movie works on many levels within the film but also as a major influence on people, pop culture and filmmaking in general.

Matrix, CK, Brazil and Pulp all are above the fray and seriously not overrated.

Unforgiven is not an apology to his past movies, it is a deconstruction of the Western mythology, creating a new one.
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^^^^

Thanks. Totally agree.

I'd like to say Titanic but I'm one of maybe 3 people left in the world who have not seen it. My VHS copy (a gift) still has the plastic wrap on it.

Here's my choice

Sideways.

I cant even tell you why. I didnt last a 1/2 hr before giving up on it. The only things I can think of as reasons are indifference and boredom.
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The Wizard of Oz. It's cute, it's fun, do I need to see it every other weekend?

edited to add: +million on Gone with the Wind, pretentious, overacted, daytime soap melodrama, yech!
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Titanic, The Dark Knight, and I'll agree with Sideways.
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how can great movies be overrated? saying Citizen Kane is overrated is like saying Lance rode a bicycle for a few years.
you raise a great question.

my two cents? I watched CK many times and didn't 'get it' so the bottom line is, that film just didn't speak to me for whatever reason. But since then, I have seen some commentaries which point out various technical innovations and general film making landmarks in CK that are difficult for someone like me to catch (ie, I have no formal training or education in film making, and I am viewing a film like Citizen Kane through the eyes of someone born in the 1960s). I have new found respect for that film and Welles in general since being schooled on what to appreciate in it. It's still not high on my list but I definitely see why people rank it so highly.

However, I am bored senseless by how some people rave about how great something is when they are clearly parroting what they read or heard somewhere, with no understanding of what makes it so great. Not everyone does this, but it is usually pretty obvious when they do. when it happens in a field I am more educated or informed about I can tell pretty quickly when someone is chucking a load of crap.

Nothing wrong with someone saying they like a film or whatever, and no need to qualify that with technical criteria, but liking it and claiming it is a superior representation in its field are two different things in my book.

The end result is people with opinions as uninformed as my own tend to jump on bandwagons, and you get snowballing myths about how great this is or that is. That only serves to undermine the true uses of superlatives and accolades for well deserving works. If everything is 'the best,' than what truly is?

I certainly am not trying to stir up trouble here - I respect everyone's subjective opinions and am curious to see what everyone is posting for their favorites. Different strokes, and all that good stuff.

Ok, I'll stfu now.....sorry for the rant, I'm still fired up about traffic cones on the queensborough bridge every freakin' morning
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I'd like to say Titanic but I'm one of maybe 3 people left in the world who have not seen it.
I'm one of the others. Not that I even have a major problem with seeing it, I just knew that with the hype I would be incredibly disappointed. I would probably rent it if I was in the mood for it, but I haven't rented a movie in a couple of years to watch alone, and when with someone, I knew they had seen it.
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Titanic was better than I expected.


THe recent over-hyped one I saw was "No Country for Old Men". That movie was just ridiculous.
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300 was garbage. i can't believe how popular it was.
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you raise a great question.
It is an age old question. Familiarity tends to breed appreciation or disgust with any work of art. Film just amplifies that because film is accessible to so many, and is sold in a particular way. The author (director) may have other intentions which may or may not agree with how the movie is sold or viewed.

Jumping on the pretentious bandwagon time, but adding to your Citizen Kane point:

Douglas Sirk and John Ford were both such good film makers that they often told more substantial narratives underneath the obvious plot line allowed by Hollywood. Watch "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" some time, and pay attention to the relative positions of Stewart and Wayne throughout the movie, how they change in relation to each other, and how the introduction of literacy/law causes the shift. Wayne starts the film horizontal in a pine box, now watch the slow progression of the collapse of his world view. Amazing stuff.

Okay, I'll jump off my bandwagon now, but there are real hidden nuggets out there and why certain films may be considered masterpieces by some and disappointments by others.
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