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    SICKO Movie

    Anyone see this movie with Michael Moore? I personally can't stand the man, and as a result normally avoid anything with his name attached to it. However I am curious about the topic.

    I have the opportunity to see this at college today from 3-5.

    Should I?

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    YES!!! if half of what he says is true we are... the pre funeral is great.



    on a side note I watched the "the last white hope the drug war in america" last night. I think that is the right name but it might not be 100% correct. if half of this documentary is true... it linked the CIA and Crack in LA, scary stuff.
    I would rather have a bottle in front of me, rather than a frontal lobotomy.

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    NO!
    I wouldn't walk across the street to p#ss on michael Moore if he was on fire! but hey thats me.....

    Let mikey move to that almighty utopia that is.....Cuba....ahh the little island paridise ran by the lovable Mr. Castro....

    hell he can take most of hollywood with him.......

    How bout' those cubs?

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    Don’t be a propaganda enabler.
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    Yes, go watch it- even if you detest Michael Moore. As one who has worked in health services research for the past 30 years, I can attest that through the hyperbole (and there is a LOT of that which, most unfortunately, dilutes the message), there is a very real kernel of truth. It's two hours well-spent, if no other reason than it will provoke a lot of discussion with your friends and colleagues, and hopefully a lot of thought about the sad state the US healthcare system is in.

    I'm sorry to inform you, johnce, that there are aspects of the Cuban healthcare system that are better than ours- not all aspects, but some. It's no utopia, for sure, but frankly, there aren't any of those anyway. However, we do have something to learn (positively and negatively) from every other system in the world. Maybe one of these days we'll figure out how to glean from the best of these other systems and make ours work, for everyone's benefit.

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    I detest Michael Moore with every cell in my being. He may well have some valid points but his delivery style makes me want to roll the message into something pointy and stab the messengers eyes out. I could not take anything the man says seriously, so me going to that movie would be an even greater exercise in futility than my everday existence already is.
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    Yes, go see it. But understand it for the polemic that it is. It's not a documentary and it's not necessarily about facts. There are facts underlying it, but you always have to take Moore with about a dozen grains of salt. That said, you hear the other side's spin just about every day. Moore's viewpoint rarely sees the light of day anywhere else.
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    I haven't seen it. I do enjoy his other movies, though- if you don't look at them as politically charged rants and take it with a light heart, they're pretty entertaining, IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    i detest michael moore with every cell in my being. He may well have some valid points but his delivery style makes me want to roll the message into something pointy and stab the messengers eyes out. I could not take anything the man says seriously, so me going to that movie would be an even greater exercise in futility than my everday existence already is.
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    I may be goin' out on a limb here but I'd be willing to bet that when the time comes when Moores ticker decides to explode he ain't gonna be jumpin' on a boat or a plane and headin' for cuba....besides he could never get along over there, it's just to damn hard to find twinkies and ho ho's! but man I sure wish he would.....him and castro could just hang for awhile....ahh sheer bliss!

    don't let the door hit ya in the a@s Mike!

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    if you're curious - you should see it. you're in college so you should absorb as much as possible.

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    be careful what you absorb. some of it might be toxic.
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    go see it

    hopefully you have a more open mind than others here and can see this movie as a wake-up call. if anything, it makes you *think*.

    is all of it factual? probably not

    does it bring to light some of the issues we face in health care? absolutely

    anyone who doesn't think there's a serious issue with health care in the U.S. has their head lodged firmly in their a**.

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    wow for the most part you guys are a pretty tough crowd

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    stop mooching off our tax paid health care
    oh well, if anything, it shows how capitalism and the well being of citizens don't bode too well with each other.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    The problem with Michael Moore is that he mixes so much rhetorical nonsense into his version of the truth that he has alienated a vast number of people. Trying to glean the truth from his morass of tainted facts is not worth the effort to me.

    Does America have problems, yes. Does Michael Moore want to fix them or just make noise and money? I have no way of knowing, but I have a feeling that as someone else stated, he is not going to Cuba to get his check ups done.

    We are a tough crowd? And I guess that Michael Moore and his ilk are cuddly little balls of warm gooey love?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    Does Michael Moore want to fix them or just make noise and money?
    both?

    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    but I have a feeling that as someone else stated, he is not going to Cuba to get his check ups done.
    I think the Cuba thing is used for mid/lower class incomes. Those who can afford U.S. care (as I'm sure he can), will stay in the U.S.

    At least that's what I got from it.

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    Many hard-core conservatives saw it and didn't have too many awful things to say about it. I think it was done for the hope of being a wake-up call to Americans. I found it to be a pretty tough watch. Sure, he takes specific examples and not averages, but it's still sends a message that we are far from a good solution to this problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    stop mooching off our tax paid health care
    I haven't need to see a doctor besides annual checkup for over two years. Several of scenes in Canada in that movie is so profoundly exaggerated it's almost false. Consider that most Americans do not visit Canada and 70% of American haven't travelled abroad, there's really no way for the viewers to see what it is really like first hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by johnce View Post
    I may be goin' out on a limb here but I'd be willing to bet that when the time comes when Moores ticker decides to explode he ain't gonna be jumpin' on a boat or a plane and headin' for cuba....besides he could never get along over there, it's just to damn hard to find twinkies and ho ho's! but man I sure wish he would.....him and castro could just hang for awhile....ahh sheer bliss!
    Michael Moore can afford the health care in US, he doesn't need to go and probably won't go to Cuba. The Cuba footage in Sicko is to present a different viewpoint on a country most Americans are misleaded by their own media and foreign policies. Castro, like Ho Chi Minh, was a respectable leader with the interest of his people at heart, despite being a poor country, it has done very well with the little resources it has. Not all Communist leaders are out to butcher their people with poor social and economic policies.

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    I'm pretty liberal, but I do know that Michael Moore is manipulative and deceitful. I saw Fahrenheit 9/11 and I thought it was one of the purest pieces of garbage ever committed to film. I really have no desire to see any of his other movies.

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    I thought it was great. I've generally liked most of his movies - Sicko, Farenheit 911, Bowling for Columbine, Roger and Me, etc. I find his style entertaining but I can see where it would be offputting for some. Kinda in the same way how I would rather stick ice picks in my ears than listen to Rush Limbaugh but recognize he's a gazillionaire for a reason.

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    No. Michael Moore is a despicable human being. I wouldn't support anyting he is involved with.

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    Yes, you should see it, it's his best since "Columbine".

    Yes, I think Michael Moore is a pedantic (your choice of derogatory word here).
    Yes, I am a pinko liberal who thinks Moore preaches to the choir, but he has a good one every now and again.

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    I like his stuff, he tells it like it is (kinda ) and people hate him for it.
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

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    I be more likely to watch it if it was not associated with Moore. He take more comments out of context than any politician and then puts them in a movie to push his points. He is a piece of human garbage.
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