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    Help me keep my head on straight?

    So, the bosslady in CO sent me an email that they received my application and all looks good. My Google Analytics tell me that there is lots of activity on my site from CO, and they're spending quite a bit of time on there. (hehe I spy)

    She said they are going through accredidation and I might not hear from them for a week or so regarding next steps. So, STILL NO GUARANTEES but, she was wanted to check if their pay range is to par with what I'd be expecting- the dollar she mentioned is just over 50% more than what I'm making now Their relocation package is a bit tight (considering I've got a nearly $3k buyout on my lease), but eh.

    I know I need to weigh the quality of living, too. Being away from friends and family and a place I've lived (nearly) my whole life. I'm excited about my new apartment, I do enjoy my day job (and am having a good time at the second PT job I picked up for fun).... Any advice to help keep me grounded? The biggest thing I'd hate to do is waste their time by (hypothetically) getting all the way out there and it not being a good fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artifice View Post
    I know I need to weigh the quality of living, too. Being away from friends and family and a place I've lived (nearly) my whole life. I'm excited about my new apartment, I do enjoy my day job (and am having a good time at the second PT job I picked up for fun).... Any advice to help keep me grounded? The biggest thing I'd hate to do is waste their time by (hypothetically) getting all the way out there and it not being a good fit.
    I just moved to Austin a few months ago. I had lived in Omaha my entire life, and I looked forward to the change. I underestimated how much I would miss my family (and friends), but eventually I became accustomed to it to a certain extent. Plus, I love Austin. There's so much to do, and the scenery in places is amazing.

    The excitement of your new apartment will wear off. And if they think you're qualified enough to fly you out there for an interview, you didn't waste anybody's time. Give it a shot and see where it goes. You may look back and always regret at least not trying.

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    look at salary.com for some good pay stats you can compare

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    I don't know where in Colorado your moving, but I was in denver last year and it is beautiful there. Great social scene, lots to do, plus utah is right there and theres fun stuff to do there.....I don't know, just sayin it was cool there, this probably is no help at all actually..i'll just leave now...
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    Yeah - I moved once like that, although not as far as you or April. I can pretty much guarantee you're going to miss things back home. You'll probably get homesick. The place you're going will probably be different than your expectations now, so I'd recommend not counting too heavily on the expectations you have now being a make or break thing. It will take time for the new place to feel like home. My move was really rewarding, I got to meet some wonderful people and had some great experiences I would not have otherwise had.

    Just think. Mr. Artifice could be out there waiting for you and not even know it yet. Or a new best friend - plus some really brilliant snow skiing from what I hear.
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    Having turned down a couple of offers to relocate recently, largely because of the kinds of issues you mention (plus kids and a wife in the mix), I can relate to your angst. There are no easy answers here, for sure- hell, that's why Frost's The Road Not Taken still resonates as one of the most popular American poems. In my experience, though, I will say this- money isn't everything, nor should it necessarily be a major deciding factor- that would depend on heavily individual circumstances, just like apartments, friends, etc., etc. In the end, only you can make the decision, and IMO, it's one that's best not made constructing some kind of ledger sheet, but one that involves the heart more than you might think.

    I know that doesn't help much, and it's only one perspective, plus I don't know you (beyond what you've posted in BF), so feel free to ignore what I've said.

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    Moving to a new location has both positive and negative aspects.

    I moved to what is arguably the arm pit of the country about 4 years ago.

    The cost of living is good, and there are things I like about the area, and a few things I don't like.

    The bottom line is that I have lived in a few areas (excluding the military), Seattle/Tacoma, California (Bay Area), and now NE Pennnsylvania. The bottom line is if I had my preferences, all else being equal, I would prefer to live where I grew up, followed by where I spent most of my adult life, but my current area is growing on me.

    No matter where you live, if you choose to make it your home, and embrace the positive aspects of the culture, seek out the historical roots of the area, learn what makes it unique, you will find yourself getting to know an area and acclimating much quicker than if you just live there.

    I feel more part of my area now than I did in the bay area after four years, and I had a wife and in-laws there to help me fit in... I don't really have any close friends here, but I know plenty of people, and get out some, and know more about some aspects of the area than some locals... but almost all locals know something better than me, so I am still learning.
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    Come out here and do the interview, if possible give yourself a few days to see things around here. Yes, your going to get homesick eventually it happens, but there could be something amazing waiting here for you and you won't know unless you try!
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    Quote Originally Posted by artifice View Post
    So, the bosslady in CO sent me an email that they received my application and all looks good. My Google Analytics tell me that there is lots of activity on my site from CO, and they're spending quite a bit of time on there. (hehe I spy)

    She said they are going through accredidation and I might not hear from them for a week or so regarding next steps. So, STILL NO GUARANTEES but, she was wanted to check if their pay range is to par with what I'd be expecting- the dollar she mentioned is just over 50% more than what I'm making now Their relocation package is a bit tight (considering I've got a nearly $3k buyout on my lease), but eh.

    I know I need to weigh the quality of living, too. Being away from friends and family and a place I've lived (nearly) my whole life. I'm excited about my new apartment, I do enjoy my day job (and am having a good time at the second PT job I picked up for fun).... Any advice to help keep me grounded? The biggest thing I'd hate to do is waste their time by (hypothetically) getting all the way out there and it not being a good fit.
    Dude wait, they are paying you 1.5x and moving to CO? Can we swap lives?


    Actual advice? Go interview. Even if you end up moving and hated it, you lose a few months of your life. Besides NOW (early 20s) is the time to do this, not later on in life where you might more career/familial/personal factors to consider. Do it. DO IT!!

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    I don't understand why people are so afraid of CHANGE!! Colorado is amazing ask Superdex, he came out here met his wife I believe now.

    Really like I said come out to the interview, give yourself a few days to sitesee and check it out. Right now its a beautiful time to come to Colorado. The weather is perfect!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBLover View Post
    I know that doesn't help much, and it's only one perspective, plus I don't know you (beyond what you've posted in BF), so feel free to ignore what I've said.
    nope, you are exactly right. only I can weight it out for myself, but its very helpful to get input from others like yourself! (all my mom can do is tell me she cried thinking about me moving). lol.

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    jsharr, i m confuzed.

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    Come out here and do the interview, if possible give yourself a few days to see things around here. Yes, your going to get homesick eventually it happens, but there could be something amazing waiting here for you and you won't know unless you try!
    yes! that is what I'm thinking. I emailed her and told her the salary is in line with my expectations, but wondered what their interview process is (essentially, whether or not a pre-employment trip is paid for by them or part of my relocation package).

    Quote Originally Posted by Little Darwin View Post
    No matter where you live, if you choose to make it your home, and embrace the positive aspects of the culture, seek out the historical roots of the area, learn what makes it unique, you will find yourself getting to know an area and acclimating much quicker than if you just live there.
    you know, that is kind of what I tell myself too. That, and you can do anything for a year- a year passes by so quickly. so what, I gain some experience and haul arse back to minnesota? there will always be a home for me here.

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    Besides NOW (early 20s) is the time to do this, not later on in life where you might more career/familial/personal factors to consider. Do it. DO IT!!
    you know, that is what i keep telling myself about everything lately. i think i might be having a 20's life crisis!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aprilm View Post
    I just moved to Austin a few months ago. I had lived in Omaha my entire life, and I looked forward to the change. I underestimated how much I would miss my family (and friends), but eventually I became accustomed to it to a certain extent. Plus, I love Austin. There's so much to do, and the scenery in places is amazing.

    The excitement of your new apartment will wear off. And if they think you're qualified enough to fly you out there for an interview, you didn't waste anybody's time. Give it a shot and see where it goes. You may look back and always regret at least not trying.
    thanks April! It's nice to hear from someone going through (or gone through) the same thing recently. I needed a little courage-boost!

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    Quote Originally Posted by artifice View Post

    you know, that is what i keep telling myself about everything lately. i think i might be having a 20's life crisis!
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    I think trying out change is a great thing if the "price" (not just money) is right. Frankly, with that much higher a salary, at the worst, you decide in a year or two that the change wasn't for you, learning a bit more about the world in the process, and move back. Given that you don't seem to have any non-negotiable commitment to where you are and you seem to have plenty of new opportunity out there, I don't see why not. But as others have said, it's ultimately your decision either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by artifice View Post
    yes! that is what I'm thinking. I emailed her and told her the salary is in line with my expectations, but wondered what their interview process is (essentially, whether or not a pre-employment trip is paid for by them or part of my relocation package).
    You still need to pay hard to get with the salary though. I learned my lesson the hard way, never accept an offer without asking for more or doing your research (which you are doing).

    you know, that is what i keep telling myself about everything lately. i think i might be having a 20's life crisis!
    Its not a crisis, its just making the right moves right now that pay off big time in your later years. If I had to do things differently I would have moved back to CO 3 years ago and started off an MBA 2 years ago. Now I am stuck in boston for at least the next 5-6 years. Its one of these things where the window seems to close very quickly (there are some extenuating circumstance as I am on a visa but still).

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    beware foo, coming up next:
    either consoling me when i get shot down
    or going through this again if i get an offer.


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    jsharr, i m confuzed.
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    oh, finally got it. Keep your head on straight - duh. The truly sad thing is that I was blonde before I went bald...
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    You're young, without kids or hubby - GO FOR IT!! I'm projecting here. I'm not in the area I grew up in, and I've lived in a few places, but all in California. I wish I had moved to a different state, or country (!) to see what it would be like living there. You can always go back. I think it would be a wonderful experience, and don't think friends and family wouldn't be visiting OFTEN if Co is everything people say it is around here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmore View Post
    great thing about being bald is you can feel a nice breeze when things go over your head...


    It's going along with the theme of the title... keeping your head on straight...

    Edit: I'm slow at replying.

    Edit 2: You had blonde hair?! The things I learn...
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    oh, finally got it. Keep your head on straight - duh. The truly sad thing is that I was blonde before I went bald...
    You just lost the hair, not the blonde it appears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by artifice View Post
    thanks April! It's nice to hear from someone going through (or gone through) the same thing recently. I needed a little courage-boost!
    If you DO go through this, land the job, and need a little encouragement, place to vent, etc., feel free to send me a PM. I know I've had some tough days, and being able to talk to someone who went through the same thing would have been a bit of a relief!

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