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Old 09-09-08, 05:44 PM   #1
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Hadron Collider goes hot tomorrow...

So will we still be here after tomorrow or will we be sucked in to the black hole that it creates?
The geek in me has kind of been following this and I'm actually excited to see what happens. Anyone else?
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Old 09-09-08, 05:46 PM   #2
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So will we still be here after tomorrow or will we be sucked in to the black hole that it creates?
The geek in me has kind of been following this and I'm actually excited to see what happens. Anyone else?
Me too... I'm guessing, though, that it will be a bit anti-climactic. Or we'll all be blinked out of existence. One of the two.
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Old 09-09-08, 05:51 PM   #4
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At least in most of the sci-fi, they usually play with this stuff out near the orbit of Jupiter.
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Old 09-09-08, 05:52 PM   #5
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Well, if they can make it, it will be a sub-atomic size black hole with the gravitational pull of a sub-atomic particle, and I think it is supposed to last pico seconds.
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^^^^ exactly. It's not the stereotypical black hole that you're thinking of. It's a subatomic black hole with the mass of two quantum particles. The event horizon on these things is probably on the order of angstroms and the lifetime is likewise very short since the energy will radiate away almost instantaneously.
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Well, if they can make it, it will be a sub-atomic size black hole with the gravitational pull of a sub-atomic particle, and I think it is supposed to last pico seconds.
If the Katamari Damacy Principle holds, it will suck in sub-atomic particles until it grows large enough to suck in full atoms, then molecules, then microscopic organisms, then chewing gum, mah-jongg pieces, kittens, people, merry-go-rounds, houses, billboards, mountains, and finally the continents themselves!
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I think the whole doomsday black hole theory is completely absurd, one of the biggest points that made me realize it's absurd was that pulsars still exist and don't collapse into black holes. =\ (the gist of what a physicist said on this)

Oh well.

However what I'm excited about is possible mono-poles, and the fact that apparently the particle has the same amount of energy behind it as a nuclear aircraft carrier doing 60km/h.
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If the Katamari Damacy Principle holds, it will suck in sub-atomic particles until it grows large enough to suck in full atoms, then molecules, then microscopic organisms, then chewing gum, mah-jongg pieces, kittens, people, merry-go-rounds, houses, billboards, mountains, and finally the continents themselves!
So it'll be like Cartman's Trapper Keeper?

I have a lot of really bad things to do between now and tomorrow. Peace out.

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Well, not to wax political, but what will likely happen is they will discover something truly amazing about the early universe, but the explanation will require more than two seconds of concentration to absorb and won't fit in to a soundbite. Then some dumbass politician will say it's wrong because the earth was created by magic a few millenniums ago, and stupid humanity will go back to wondering what Paris Hilton is up to.
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Actually I don't think they're creating the 'big bang' tomorrow. I believe they begin testing it tomorrow. They'll start by sending protons in one direction around the machine. When they conclude those tests then they'll send protons in the opposite direction to insure the machine will work in both directions. Then eventually they'll do both directions at the same time to create the tests.

On a related note, I posted ted.com several days ago. Here is an excellent video of a speech by one of the people that will be doing research there.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/brian_cox_on_cern_s_supercollider.html


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However what I'm excited about is possible mono-poles, and the fact that apparently the particle has the same amount of energy behind it as a nuclear aircraft carrier doing 60km/h.
Yes, it's absurd in the extreme.

Mono-poles? As in, magnetic monopoles? Yes, that would be nice... We can't do FEM analysis in Electromagnetics without considering the effects of these buggers, even though we think they don't actually exist.
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Yes, it's absurd in the extreme.

Mono-poles? As in, magnetic monopoles? Yes, that would be nice... We can't do FEM analysis in Electromagnetics without considering the effects of these buggers, even though we think they don't actually exist.
Well apparently monopoles do fit in current theories, actually they require them, they should exist, but we haven't seen them.

So it becomes a big yippee day when we can reproduce them.
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Well, not to wax political, but what will likely happen is they will discover something truly amazing about the early universe, but the explanation will require more than two seconds of concentration to absorb and won't fit in to a soundbite. Then some dumbass politician will say it's wrong because the earth was created by magic a few millenniums ago, and stupid humanity will go back to wondering what Paris Hilton is up to.
That calls for an encore.

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I imagine that's what you listen to when operating on someone.
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Old 09-09-08, 07:10 PM   #16
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I imagine that's what you listen to when operating on someone.
Nope... My last case was Jack Johnson's "In Between Dreams." But it varies.
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I was a little afraid that song was for real until they got to slavery.
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In that case, I'm not pooper scooping after my dog Sam.
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I was thinking maybe something would happen like in Half-life and all of the folks at CERN would turn into chicken headed creatures or something.
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I just now realized- I think the style of the music in this song
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Is there any chance we can get them to move the matter collision test up a few weeks? I'd rather they create this Nine Billion Names of God Black Hole before the Mets suffer another Epic September Collapse.
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test. Is the internets still here?
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test. Is the internets still here?
For now.....Although we could go at any time today.

Crap. I still need to write my will. Oh wait. There won't be anybody left to carry out my will..


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For now.....Although we could go at any time today.



Hmmm....maybe I should be paying a visit to that attractive lady down the hall.
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You guys are getting worked up over nothing. You have a month to get your bucket list done. They dont start colliding particles until October.

I read the resulting collisions will produce heat that's 100000x hotter than the sun. That's hot!

Heres a video to help explain it all

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