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    When you have to fly...

    ...please keep in mind that the people you interface with generally aren't the ones to blame for. Great article from the flight attendants' perspective:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/tr...=1&oref=slogin
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    nice article, although I don't fly because my 6'4" frame (6'3" of that being legs) doesn't fit so well in those seats and I don't particually like eating my kneecaps for the entire flight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13 View Post
    ...please keep in mind that the people you interface with generally aren't the ones to blame for. Great article from the flight attendants' perspective:

    http://www .n ytimes.com/2008/09/14/...=1&oref=slogin
    basically true, with some exceptions.

    the one thing that i find questionable is that the article stated that it's harder to work first class than economy. if that's true, then why are flight attendants always so miserable in economy, and generally genuinely pleasant in business?

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    basically true, with some exceptions.

    the one thing that i find questionable is that the article stated that it's harder to work first class than economy. if that's true, then why are flight attendants always so miserable in economy, and generally genuinely pleasant in business?

    You don't interact with rich people often, do you?

    They're demeaning, arrogant, dismissive, and generally a pain to do anything for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hickeydog View Post
    nice article, although I don't fly because my 6'4" frame (6'3" of that being legs) doesn't fit so well in those seats and I don't particually like eating my kneecaps for the entire flight.
    I haven't flown much, but I learned real quick that, like on a bus, in church, or at the movies, the isle seat is best! I swivel to the side a bit and stretch my legs out into the isle. (6'4" as well)

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13 View Post
    ...please keep in mind that the people you interface with generally aren't the ones to blame for. Great article from the flight attendants' perspective:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/tr...=1&oref=slogin
    I had to remind myself of that over and over about a month ago when Air Tran stranded me in Sea-Tac for about 12 hours before getting us a plane. Didn't get me on any other flights and only gave me one $10 voucher for my trouble (that bought a whole coffee and muffin at Charrbucks).
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    Quote Originally Posted by oakback View Post
    I haven't flown much, but I learned real quick that, like on a bus, in church, or at the movies, the isle seat is best! I swivel to the side a bit and stretch my legs out into the isle. (6'4" as well)
    Aisle seating is OK, until they start wheeling the carts around and people are walking back and forth to the bathroom, and kicking your legs.

    The last couple of times I've flown, I made sure to book an exit row. Whenever possible, I get an exit row with only two seats. I'm 6'6", and I fit comfortably in the exit row without having to fold myself like an accordian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseysbest View Post
    You don't interact with rich people often, do you?
    incorrect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseysbest View Post
    They're demeaning, arrogant, dismissive, and generally a pain to do anything for.
    sweeping statements ftw.


    btw - you've never flown in business class, have you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    the one thing that i find questionable is that the article stated that it's harder to work first class than economy. if that's true, then why are flight attendants always so miserable in economy, and generally genuinely pleasant in business?
    They have to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Air View Post
    They have to be.
    you must have missed the part about it being genuine.

    considering that they're taking care of 18 business class passengers, instead of 60+ economy, it's understandable.

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    Poor flight attendants. Someone call the waahmbulance...

    The service industry sucks. Whether it's in the air or on the ground--whenever you're the frontline for the general public, it can and will get unpleasant. Maybe it was something different in the past, but so were a lot of other things. Get over it.

    Next: Michelle Higgins takes on the challenging role of bagger at her local supermarket and, surprise, surprise, finds out that people still suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hickeydog View Post
    nice article, although I don't fly because my 6'4" frame (6'3" of that being legs) doesn't fit so well in those seats and I don't particually like eating my kneecaps for the entire flight.
    I'm not that tall, but the first thing I do when we're off the ground is swap my carry-on from under the seat in front of me to the tiny bit of space available under my seat which lets me stretch my legs out just a little bit more. Not guaranteed to work on all planes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    you must have missed the part about it being genuine.

    considering that they're taking care of 18 business class passengers, instead of 60+ economy, it's understandable.
    Also, the business class passengers are generally in a better mood than the economy passengers, plus more of them tend to be frequent flyers who are more understanding of what the flight attendants go through.


    I agreed with much of the article; however this part:

    No to the guy who, like many of his fellow passengers, was concerned he wouldn’t make his connecting flight because of our late departure and pleaded, “Can you call and find out?” (Sorry, but here’s the customer service number you can try when we land.)
    Airports and airlines in other countries seem to deal much better with slight delays and connections than in the US. It's all computerized, I can't understand why it is that United Airlines cannot hold a flight 5 minutes for 20 people on a delayed flight, surely rebooking those 20 people on other airlines is more expensive than holding the plane for 5 minutes in Denver. In contrast, the nice folks at the Munich airport drove me around and expedited me through immigration when I was the only person slightly delayed on a Lufthansa connection.
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    You are correct, it is not the flight attendants fault that the passengers keep bugging them while they are trying to figure out where they are partying at when they land for the night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamlucky13 View Post
    I'm not that tall, but the first thing I do when we're off the ground is swap my carry-on from under the seat in front of me to the tiny bit of space available under my seat which lets me stretch my legs out just a little bit more. Not guaranteed to work on all planes.
    you do realize that there's compartments above you, for your carry on baggage, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    you do realize that there's compartments above you, for your carry on baggage, right?
    Which are completely stuffed since people can not check their freaking bags when they really should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy_Rider View Post
    Which are completely stuffed since people can not check their freaking bags when they really should.
    board early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    board early.
    So you are one of those that don't follow directions and board with your section? So breaking the rules is your answer to fixing the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy_Rider View Post
    So you are one of those that don't follow directions and board with your section? So breaking the rules is your answer to fixing the problem?
    with skills of deduction such as yours, you should work for the CIA.

    yellowcake anyone?

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    Traveling is a generally stressful experience. I've always been lucky to work in service industries that make people happy- 6 years as a barista. People are so dang excited (generally) to get their 'fix'. Especially with the 'new age' of travel- expensive, delays, deadlines- pretty much nobody starts out having a good day.

    The more you travel the more you get accustomed to ^ and find ways around it (sure, be the dude that boards early, especially if it makes you less of a PITA to deal with)-- or, you just learn to accept it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artifice View Post
    Traveling is a generally stressful experience. I've always been lucky to work in service industries that make people happy- 6 years as a barista. People are so dang excited (generally) to get their 'fix'. Especially with the 'new age' of travel- expensive, delays, deadlines- pretty much nobody starts out having a good day.

    The more you travel the more you get accustomed to ^ and find ways around it (sure, be the dude that boards early, especially if it makes you less of a PITA to deal with)-- or, you just learn to accept it.
    i don't do it because it makes me 'less of a PITA', i do it because i'm entitled to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    i don't do it because it makes me 'less of a PITA', i do it because i'm entitled to.
    So you own the plane?

    That is the only way you are entitled to anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy_Rider View Post
    So you own the plane?

    That is the only way you are entitled to anything.
    incorrect. again.

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    Well, if flight attendants had it easy back in the day, I think we all had it easy back in the day too when going from one part of the country to the next didn't cost an arm and a leg!
    Ride more.

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