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skinnyone 09-17-08 11:05 AM

Reading the fine print..
 
I thought, "great, tires are a steal at that price"

Sure enough after I buy them I notice that they are 25c and 23c :crash:

KingTermite 09-17-08 11:27 AM

You mean one of each? Not matching?

botto 09-17-08 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinnyone (Post 7488269)
I thought, "great, tires are a steal at that price"

Sure enough after I buy them I notice that they are 25c and 23c :crash:

why are you posting a bike related subject in foo?

jsharr 09-17-08 11:38 AM

Run the fat one on teh back and tell teh guys your bike is a dragster.

skinnyone 09-17-08 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingTermite (Post 7488493)
You mean one of each? Not matching?

No both are 25s and at my body weight an over kill
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Originally Posted by botto (Post 7488515)
why are you posting a bike related subject in foo?

Didnt have much to do with the road forum list of allowed topics such as pcad/freds/htfu/ave speed/watts etc ;). More of a rant on my inattentiveness.
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Originally Posted by jsharr (Post 7488609)
Run the fat one on teh back and tell teh guys your bike is a dragster.

Wanna race?

jsharr 09-17-08 12:11 PM

Downhill, sure.

botto 09-17-08 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinnyone (Post 7488837)

Didnt have much to do with the road forum list of allowed topics such as pcad/freds/htfu/ave speed/watts etc ;). More of a rant on my inattentiveness.

at least people actually ride bike there. some of them at least.

Shadiyah 09-17-08 04:41 PM

Oopsies! I'm sure we've all had our share of buying items in haste.

Square & Compas 09-17-08 04:55 PM

I'm trying to figure out why you have an issue with 2 little measly centimeters. Is it even noticable? It's not like you're trying to put a 26" tire on a 700c rim. That I could see you complaining about.

celticfrost 09-17-08 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Square & Compas (Post 7491030)
I'm trying to figure out why you have an issue with 2 little measly centimeters. Is it even noticable? It's not like you're trying to put a 26" tire on a 700c rim. That I could see you complaining about.

:lol::rolleyes::lol:

maybe this does belong in the Road Cycling forum.

Wordbiker 09-17-08 05:08 PM

Yeah, that'd really suck.

Just imagine the extra cushion of a 25c and how much that 2mm of aerodynamic drag will slow you down. :rolleyes:

BenLi 09-17-08 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Square & Compas (Post 7491030)
I'm trying to figure out why you have an issue with 2 little measly centimeters. Is it even noticable? It's not like you're trying to put a 26" tire on a 700c rim. That I could see you complaining about.

2 cm is a lot.

skinnyone 09-17-08 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadiyah (Post 7490952)
Oopsies! I'm sure we've all had our share of buying items in haste.

Shadiyah! yr back!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Square & Compas (Post 7491030)
I'm trying to figure out why you have an issue with 2 little measly centimeters. Is it even noticable? It's not like you're trying to put a 26" tire on a 700c rim. That I could see you complaining about.

You sir, are not a true bike weenie. Please report to Rochester NY for Bike Forums training camp. Contact PCAD for more details
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Originally Posted by Wordbiker (Post 7491108)
Yeah, that'd really suck.

Just imagine the extra cushion of a 25c and how much that 2mm of aerodynamic drag will slow you down. :rolleyes:

Cushioning for wussy. What do you know bike shop man?
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Originally Posted by celticfrost (Post 7491052)
:lol::rolleyes::lol:

maybe this does belong in the Road Cycling forum.

That was kinda what I was worried about which is why I posted here.
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Originally Posted by BenLi (Post 7491323)
2 cm is a lot.

Good catch.

Wordbiker 09-17-08 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by skinnyone (Post 7491739)
What do you know bike shop man?

What do I know?

I know that a number of years ago Bicycling magazine did a laboratory study on rolling resistance. They compared a number of tires, all with differing widths. Conclusion? They found that rolling resistance for the wider tires often bested the figures of narrower tires. They concluded that this was due to the larger tires ability to roll over objects rather than deflecting, and that the only true measurable advantage of the narrower tire was aerodynamics or rotational weight.

I also know that flatting due to running too narrow a tire costs much more time than is gained in a mere 2mm difference in tire width.

I also know that many riders opt to run too narrow a width of tire in the vain hope of compensating for their lack of fitness rather than running a comfortable and practical width which would allow them to ride longer and with less fatigue, much like a woman wearing an excruciatingly uncomfortable shoe in the name of fashion.

If you really want some interesting and myth-busting info, try studying what tire pressures and widths some European pros currently run.

If you want to see if that 2mm will make any difference in your own riding, try them and do some trials to see for yourself rather than believing what fashion dictates.

UnsafeAlpine 09-17-08 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wordbiker (Post 7493426)
What do I know?

I know that a number of years ago Bicycling magazine did a laboratory study on rolling resistance. They compared a number of tires, all with differing widths. Conclusion? They found that rolling resistance for the wider tires often bested the figures of narrower tires. They concluded that this was due to the larger tires ability to roll over objects rather than deflecting, and that the only true measurable advantage of the narrower tire was aerodynamics or rotational weight.

I also know that flatting due to running too narrow a tire costs much more time than is gained in a mere 2mm difference in tire width.

I also know that many riders opt to run too narrow a width of tire in the vain hope of compensating for their lack of fitness rather than running a comfortable and practical width which would allow them to ride longer and with less fatigue, much like a woman wearing an excruciatingly uncomfortable shoe in the name of fashion.

If you really want some interesting and myth-busting info, try studying what tire pressures and widths some European pros currently run.

If you want to see if that 2mm will make any difference in your own riding, try them and do some trials to see for yourself rather than believing what fashion dictates.

Ah...what do you know bike shop man :p

x136 09-17-08 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wordbiker (Post 7493426)
I also know that many riders opt to run too narrow a width of tire in the vain hope of compensating for their lack of fitness

If only the inverse were true...

*looks over at the 32c tires on his bike*

:P

skinnyone 09-18-08 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wordbiker (Post 7493426)
What do I know?

I know that a number of years ago Bicycling magazine did a laboratory study on rolling resistance. They compared a number of tires, all with differing widths. Conclusion? They found that rolling resistance for the wider tires often bested the figures of narrower tires. They concluded that this was due to the larger tires ability to roll over objects rather than deflecting, and that the only true measurable advantage of the narrower tire was aerodynamics or rotational weight.

I also know that flatting due to running too narrow a tire costs much more time than is gained in a mere 2mm difference in tire width.

I also know that many riders opt to run too narrow a width of tire in the vain hope of compensating for their lack of fitness rather than running a comfortable and practical width which would allow them to ride longer and with less fatigue, much like a woman wearing an excruciatingly uncomfortable shoe in the name of fashion.

You do relize I was trying to be sarcastic right :). I saw that study too and another opinion that the contact patch of a 20c being not as grippy while cornering and might wash out if used in the front more so than a wider tire. Any rate I will be using these tires.

If you really want some interesting and myth-busting info, try studying what tire pressures and widths some European pros currently run.

If you want to see if that 2mm will make any difference in your own riding, try them and do some trials to see for yourself rather than believing what fashion dictates.[/QUOTE]

Wordbiker 09-18-08 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by skinnyone (Post 7494533)
You do relize I was trying to be sarcastic right :)

I do, just wanted you to have the right info in case you truly were a deluded fashion slave. :p

ModoVincere 09-18-08 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Wordbiker (Post 7494541)
I do, just wanted you to have the right info in case you truly were a deluded fashion slave. :p

well...my bubble just got burst.

skinnyone 09-18-08 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wordbiker (Post 7494541)
I do, just wanted you to have the right info in case you truly were a deluded fashion slave. :p

well I am still a fashionista at heart though :p

Jerseysbest 09-18-08 07:57 AM

I can barely tell the difference between 23 and 25's.

UnsafeAlpine 09-18-08 07:59 AM

I have specialized "23's" that are nearly the width of a mountain bike tire. it's ridiculous.

Wordbiker 09-18-08 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinnyone (Post 7494593)
well I am still a fashionista at heart though :p

And I'm running 23's on my bike too...even though I've gained a bit of heft. :o


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