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Old 10-02-08, 09:14 PM   #1
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Is the city THE place for young singles to live?

I've heard that for young people who've graduated college, single, don't have a family, and are looking for a place to live within a metropolitan area, the city is the best option. I figure some of the reasons probably are: cheap rent, close to a job (if you work downtown), lots of entertainment nearby (restaurants, shopping areas, bars, etc), lots of people to meet within a small radius, and the list goes on.
Of course, as a cyclist the closeness of everything makes an even bigger difference than if you relied on a car!

What are your thoughts BF?
I do notice that sometimes suburbs can become more populated with families and older people. However, in the city it almost seems like everyone is a stranger because there are sooo many people.
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Old 10-02-08, 09:16 PM   #2
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I loved the two years I spent living in a loft in downtown Dallas. The bad part is that your house becomes party central on weekends, drunk friends stopping by at all hours, etc. But you are only young once.
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I'm going to be living in downtown San Diego within a year and I can honestly say that I am VERY excited! Everything is within walking distance and there are lots more people my age
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I suppose it depends on which city you're talking about. If, for example, it's NYC, then cheap rent certainly isn't in that equation. In fact, cheap anything isn't in the equation.
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Yeah, rent is not cheap in the city. If you get out in the rural areas rent is cheap, but the job options are really limited.

As for entertainment, I guess that's a matter of taste. Aside from restaurants, most of my entertainment consists of getting out of the city.
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I've heard that for young people who've graduated college, single, don't have a family, and are looking for a place to live within a metropolitan area, the city is the best option. I figure some of the reasons probably are: cheap rent, close to a job (if you work downtown), lots of entertainment nearby (restaurants, shopping areas, bars, etc), lots of people to meet within a small radius, and the list goes on.
Of course, as a cyclist the closeness of everything makes an even bigger difference than if you relied on a car!

What are your thoughts BF?
I do notice that sometimes suburbs can become more populated with families and older people. However, in the city it almost seems like everyone is a stranger because there are sooo many people.
All of that is absolutely true. If you are looking for exactly that, then a city will be the best living option for you. I don't really recommend city life for a family, as parents may not have time to really enjoy all that there is to offer, and the crowdedness of city life may actually become a hindrance.

As for me, if you read my post, I'm young (21) and really dislike the city. I really don't seek any of those outlets for entertainment. It seems that I find entertainment in the smaller and simpler things. Thus, the city is something of my antithesis.
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Yeah, rent is not cheap in the city. If you get out in the rural areas rent is cheap, but the job options are really limited.

As for entertainment, I guess that's a matter of taste. Aside from restaurants, most of my entertainment consists of getting out of the city.
Rent can be cheap if you look hard enough, and/or sacrifice a few commodities to save. You can also make tight connections, which go very far.
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Old 10-02-08, 10:53 PM   #9
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^^^^^^ You wanna live like you are 60 when you are 21.. Are you afraid of fun? Or people ??
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Cheap rent? In a city? Surely, you jest!
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It's amazing what some will consider a City.....
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The words cheap rent & city shouldn't be allowed to be used in the same sentence.

Yes, you can have cheap rent. My friend rents a place for $500/month. But it is shared with 2 other guys. His room is 6 x 10. There is no living room. A shared kitchen & a shared bathroom. It's also a 5th floor walk up.
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^^^^^^ You wanna live like you are 60 when you are 21.. Are you afraid of fun? Or people ??
that sort of depends on what you consider fun, doesn't it? If you go to bars and restaurants a lot, the city might be a better move. if you do live in the city, be sure to find a place where you can walk to some nice attractions, food/music/bars, etc. Its pointless if you have to drive (parking in chicago blows), cab it every time, or walk through some sketchy neighborhoods.

If you typically do those things on weekends, you might consider living where you can take a train into the city. you don't HAVE to live in the city to enjoy it. I work downtown, live in the burbs. I can either stay after work to go out in the city, or take a train in on the weekends. You can't be quite as spontaneous, but that doesn't bother me.
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Old 10-03-08, 08:31 AM   #14
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I've heard that for young people who've graduated college, single, don't have a family, and are looking for a place to live within a metropolitan area, the city is the best option. I figure some of the reasons probably are: cheap rent, close to a job (if you work downtown), lots of entertainment nearby (restaurants, shopping areas, bars, etc), lots of people to meet within a small radius, and the list goes on.
Of course, as a cyclist the closeness of everything makes an even bigger difference than if you relied on a car!

What are your thoughts BF?
I do notice that sometimes suburbs can become more populated with families and older people. However, in the city it almost seems like everyone is a stranger because there are sooo many people.
Depends on what you consider a city. A rundown of Pittsburgh, PA for ya.

Cheap rent: Own, low monthly payments - okay for family living within the city
Close to job: Yeah, bike commute there, 15 minutes in on a good run.
Lots of entertainment nearby: Hells ya, used to live in Squirrel Hill, two theaters within a ten block area, all within walking distance of the house.
Lots of people to meet in a small radius: Yes.

Bad stuff: yeah, there's that, too. some folks were shot down the block last night.
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Don't forget that not all cities are the same. It depends upon the environment you're looking for. Hong Kong, New York, Paris, Tokyo are very crowded cosmopolitan metropolises. San Francisco, Montreal and San Diego are more casual and perhaps more suited for the recent cyclist grad. I wouldn't try to commute by bike at all the 1st group, whereas the 2nd group is much more bike-friendly.
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+1 on the different city types. For a young single (regardless of sexual orientation), SF is definitely a place to find someone. However other cities just didn't seem to have much in the way of night life, even though they were sizable.
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Hmm....

Cheap rent? Haha. Even in Philly an apartment in a more devious area is over $500/month. School housing is about $650/month each for four people in one apartment.

Jobs? Maybe. Software and hardware jobs are split between the city and way out in the rural suburbs (the main line).

Entertainment? If you're into drinking and restaurants and art, OK. I am hard to please but "a night out" isn't going to the bar. I don't like any entertainment offerings in the city, to be honest.

Close to people? See above. Outside of your daily sphere of influence, if you don't drink, you are not very likely to meet other people.

City living is over-rated; if you are a more peaceful introvert you can live in a nicer, quiet suburb for cheaper rent, no hassle, and a 15-20 mile bike commute. Oh, and you can afford to buy a house right out of school.
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I think the cheapest rent is in the Michigan Detroit area. There's also that lady that bought a house for $1.75 off eBay. Although she had to pay $850 in back taxes.
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yeah the city is desirable for young, well-employed singles. but as the others said the city is expensive, and you'll probably party more. Course, it depends on the city- I've always lived near Minneapolis/St Paul (Minneapolis is more expensive) and I first moved there 2 years out of college after feeling a bit established. I guess it all depends on you and your plan- I know for me I enjoy financial security, this not moving there immediately because I knew what a money pit it would be
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If you are single and young I would recommend the city. It all really depends on you personality though. I have been living in a smaller town with not to many young people. Its hard to meet people your age if you are new but rent is cheap. I never really hit up bars in the past but go everyonce and awhile just to meet & be around young folk. I am thankful that I don't live in the super boonies of northern Minnesota.....Roseau, Int. Falls.
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I don't drink (coffee, tea, beer, alcohol) nor do I dance/club, so living in a city (to me) would not be very beneficial. I'm pretty shy too, and don't go out on the weekends (I know, I'm a loser) and I am also single. I live near Orlando (in Windermere, so not exactly city dwelling) as the rent is affordable and its a 30 minute drive to work (or any place of interest really) in a low-crime area. I hate it down here, and want to move, but wouldn't move to a City unless a job has some pretty good incentives. I'm also the odd one out, both my sisters live in NYC (one works, one goes to school, I am middle child) though my mother shares my hatred of Florida. If i move, I want to move to NZ or CO.
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I don't drink (coffee, tea, beer, alcohol) nor do I dance/club, so living in a city (to me) would not be very beneficial. I'm pretty shy too, and don't go out on the weekends (I know, I'm a loser) and I am also single. I live near Orlando (in Windermere, so not exactly city dwelling) as the rent is affordable and its a 30 minute drive to work (or any place of interest really) in a low-crime area. I hate it down here, and want to move, but wouldn't move to a City unless a job has some pretty good incentives. I'm also the odd one out, both my sisters live in NYC (one works, one goes to school, I am middle child) though my mother shares my hatred of Florida. If i move, I want to move to NZ or CO.
Modest Mouse - Florida

Yeah I haven't heard to many good things about Florida. How old are you? I'm 25 and love the energy that young people project. It doesn't feel right to hang out with old people all day at work.

It's nice everyone is different.
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Only 23 myself. Most of the people I live with are 10+ years older then me. the few under the 30-years-old mark are all dating people. From my interaction with them, a few have 'the look' but not the 'brains' that would make them dating material for me. They kinda "Wow, that was the dumbest thing i've heard all week" type. (Them).

I like the outdoors, but its too damned hot and humid in Florida. Not to mention swampy and flat, and the rain at 4PM everyday. Its to the point where I haven't ridden my bike in 3 months (Blasphemy I know!) but its hard to get motivated when there are no brights spots in my day (beyond the sun burning my retinas).
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I think the cheapest rent is in the Michigan Detroit area. There's also that lady that bought a house for $1.75 off eBay. Although she had to pay $850 in back taxes.
I've talked to a guy who fairly regularly buys houses in some Canadian town across the border from Detroit from the government for $1. He spends a few days of his time demolishing the abandoned houses to reduce the fire threat and ends up with a decent bare lot that, at the very least can't really go down in value. The city is happy just to see the area slightly cleaned up.
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I've talked to a guy who fairly regularly buys houses in some Canadian town across the border from Detroit from the government for $1. He spends a few days of his time demolishing the abandoned houses to reduce the fire threat and ends up with a decent bare lot that, at the very least can't really go down in value. The city is happy just to see the area slightly cleaned up.
That actually isn't a bad idea. The only real worry with a vacant lot is making sure its mowed every so often.

There is one catch though. If the house was built with asbestos in the walls, tearing it down will be expensive, because it will require the guys with the NBC suits and gas masks to make sure the stuff doesn't get in the air or the soil.
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