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Old 10-08-08, 05:52 PM   #1
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Bathroom Remodel Cost

We're getting quotes on our small bathroom remodel. There is alot of work, but it's very small. Cost is way more then we were thinking. I know there are way too many variables, but what have you guys paid for remodeling. Ours includes new custom built tile shower (but small), a fair bit of plumbing (moving some old lines away from an outside wall, tile floor, tile half walls, new window, new exhaust fan (never had one), so basically a new bath from scratch. No tub just shower, sink, toilet. Just curious.
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What are you lookin' at? $5000?
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I did my master bathroom for about $3000, tearing it down to the studs. But, I also did all of the work myself. I don't know what a contractor would have charged for labor, but I spent about 20 hours on it.
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Based on my experience, it will cost 2x whatever you were just quoted and take 6 weeks longer than promised.
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I'd say 4500 for a bathroom remodel. If you're willing to do the work yourself, you'll save a considerable amount of money....especially if you've already got the tools.

I did it and it was one of the most miserable experiences of my life. I hope to never do it again.

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Oy! He's moving pipes! That's gonna be closer to $10k; I'd say $8k-$9k. I used a conversion factor for the west coast vs. Indiana. Here on the west coast, it would be $10k easy. Tile takes time to lay out and several visits to finish. And, it costs more if you have tiles with different thicknesses.

Think again about the toliet; it makes it a regulation 1/2 bath, maybe 3/4 bath. Unless you have a second toliet already, it will be more convenient to have, as well as the added value. I am the first in WA state to get this toliet:

http://www.caromausa.com/Sydney-Smart-305-RFP

I pick it up tomorrow! It's rated at 1.28/0.8 gal/flush, which is even more efficient than their regular 1.6/0.8 toliets are, and much more efficient than what the law requires. I have one of Caroma's "regular" dual-flush toliets already. They work, have never had a problem in 2 years. Never had to double-flush.
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I had a complete remodel of my small bathroom - tore it down to studs, moved one wall out about 18 inches, enlarged the stall and new tile on the floor and all the way up the stall walls, tile floor and half way up the room walls, new vanity with marble top, reused the stool, new mirror, two light fixtures, fan, etc. All for about $11,000. Labor by a friend but basically handyman hourly rates. It took nearly a month. All in all, I think it would have been hard to do it for less $$.
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so basically a new bath from scratch. No tub just shower, sink, toilet. Just curious.

Hmmm... we had our 1/2 bath redone a couple years ago. Travertine tile on the floor and shower stall, glass door, new cabinets, counter top, fixtures, electrical, fans. No new window, but it was taken to the bare studs and rebuilt from there. We also had the master bedroom painted to match- a corner of the bathroom is visible here: http://home.comcast.net/~jeff_wills/...ouse082010.htm

This was $15,000 worth of work. Other estimates were $12K to $27K.
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You could reduce the costs by doing some of the work yourself...personally, I'd have the contractor re-route the plumbing, and do all the finish work (tile, sink and toilet, drywall, molding and painting) myself.
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The national average is $10,499 according to this site.
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How big is your bathroom? I've remodeled 3 homes in the last 8 years. Major remodeling. If you can't get your bathroom re-done from the studs in for $5,000 or less, keep getting quotes. Find someone you know that had work done, look at the work, and if the contractor comes recommended, go with it. There are some hungry contractors out there right now. On the other hand, some contractors don't want a job to small and they'll purposely give you a high quote to see if you'll bite. If you have some tools and are a little bit handy, do some of it yourself. You might be surprised how good you do, and you don't have to hurry, and you'll learn a ton. Plus, your wife will think you're a stud.
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We remodelled our master bath back in May. It took about 1 month and cost about $9k. I did the demo myself so we didn't have to pay for it- I got a big sledgehammer and a big crowbar- took out the shower, whirlpool tub, cabinets, took the tile off the walls. We hired a one-man contractor and he took off the floor tile, and helped me take off the 4'x7' mirror.
Our contractor plugged and covered up the tile drain, built a new pan and curb for the shower, moved some plumbing slightly, put in new sheetrock, put on the shower tile and floor tile, installed the new toilet, moved some light fixtures and outlets, textured and painted the other walls, built and installed new cabinets. We hired a stone company to build a new grainte countertop- about 2'x7' for just under $1k. We hired a glass company do build and install the frameless shower glass- $2k. We bought the 2 sinks, toilet, wall sconces, and all plumbing fixtures ourselves, and I installed most of it. We bought new cabinet hardware and 2 new mirrors.
Our house has one other full bath and one other half bath so we were not inconvenienced too much during that month.
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I do bath remodeling for a living. I work for a big home improvement company. I also do my own jobs on the side.
If my company were to give you a quote you would be looking at $15,000 - $18,000.
If I were to do it as a side job you would be in the $6000 - $7000 range
Anyone below $5000 is clueless and probably very inexperienced.
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You could reduce the costs by doing some of the work yourself...personally, I'd have the contractor re-route the plumbing, and do all the finish work (tile, sink and toilet, drywall, molding and painting) myself.
Even plumbing is very easy. Once you learn how to solder pipe, you can do this yourself in no time. Check your local Home Depot - they have free classes on this stuff all the time. You can learn how to do it all yourself and save a boatload of cash in the process.

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Anyone below $5000 is clueless and probably very inexperienced.
Listen to this guy. He is absolutely correct. If it sounds too good to be true, it is. Labor is not cheap.

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Based on my experience, it will cost 2x whatever you were just quoted and take 6 weeks longer than promised.
Especially if they low-ball the quote at first.

Here's what I was able to do for $3K:

New Drywall all around
New deep tub and shower with one-piece surround, new fixtures, new supply and drain plumbing
New backer and ceramic tile (a conglomeration of 12" and 6" tiles in a red clay/beige scheme) with floor heater
New shower light with all the necessary wiring
New cabinet, sink, tile backsplash extension, medicine cabinet with lighthing/wiring
New commode, towel rack, TP dispenser, candle shelf, curtain rod, and other amenities
New extra-quiet exhaust fan
New electrical fixtures (digital light dimmer, fan switch, floor thermostat)
Paint, spackle (lots of spackle - this was my first attempt at drywall haha), and other tie-up things

If you consider yourself a handy person, there's no reason you won't be able to do it all yourself.
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Well, R900, how do you like the range so far?
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The national average is $10,499 according to this site.
$10k was the figure in my head for a bath. $40k is the first thing I think of when I hear kitchen remodel.
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I do bath remodeling for a living. I work for a big home improvement company. I also do my own jobs on the side.
If my company were to give you a quote you would be looking at $15,000 - $18,000.
If I were to do it as a side job you would be in the $6000 - $7000 range
Anyone below $5000 is clueless and probably very inexperienced.
So do you want to come to IN for a side job? Our quote was around $15,000, contractor is excellent but high for the area. He did our kitchen in '99. The room is small, but there is a lot of work, but I was hoping closer to $10,000. I could do some of it, but I've never laid tile and the shower worries me as it's directly over our kitchen. Anyway, I'm still working on the downstair half-bath, I started last year (to many nice days to ride vs remodel).

I guess it comes down to piece of mind. I wish we could find someone in the $10k range or less, but knowing it's done correctly, quickly, and without any contractor "extras", is worth something. $5k for piece of mind is a bit high. Seems like our kitchen was close to $80k, but it was a big job with a lot of general contractor work, medium range cabinets, and higher end appliances.

Problem is we live in a smaller town and tend to over improve our home. I guess it doesn't really matter as much since we plan to stay here for some time.
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We're getting quotes on our small bathroom remodel. There is alot of work, but it's very small. Cost is way more then we were thinking. I know there are way too many variables, but what have you guys paid for remodeling. Ours includes new custom built tile shower (but small), a fair bit of plumbing (moving some old lines away from an outside wall, tile floor, tile half walls, new window, new exhaust fan (never had one), so basically a new bath from scratch. No tub just shower, sink, toilet. Just curious.
I think when you're talking about new shower, fixtures, walls, window, ventilation (floor?) and moving pipes, you are past remodelling. I think you've got enough qualitative items piled up that square (or cubic) footage is not going to be the main determinant of the final cost.

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Plumbing costs out the algore, I'd say that alone will set you back 1500-2000...


Tile work cost out the algore also, Sounds like you have major tile work to complete so plan on another 3-4k.


Here is an example of my first attempt at tile.
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I recently did my bathroom (well remodeled and gutted and entire house) but my bathroom cost about ~ 8,000. This included:
A new standup shower, tile, all hardware
A used clawfoot tub + refinishing it and all new hardware
New vanity, vanity top (I did this in Icestone) and sink
New floor tile
New toliet
New Mirror
New lights
New exhaust fan
New plumbing throughout

The most expensive things in this were the hardware for the sink, tub, shower and the vanity countertop.
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$10k was the figure in my head for a bath. $40k is the first thing I think of when I hear kitchen remodel.

$40,000 for a kitchen remodel? You gotta be kidding. Hang on, I have to pick myself up off the floor. Ain't no way. Who's house are you talking about - Deon's up in Prosper?
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Twelve years ago I did a kitchen remodel for a lady in the south Lake Union area of Seattle, WA. for $87,000. She had magazine photos of what she wanted. All Corian, tile, and stainless steel. We did the job in about 8 weeks. She was very happy with the result.
Eight months later we received a call. She wanted her old kitchen back. It seems that her family and friends thought the new kitchen was too "cold and stark".
Fortunately we do before and after pictures and were able to redue much of the original with improvements.
As for bathroom estimates, I would have to see the job. I've never been able to give estimates over the phone. Too much variation in size, location, and personal tastes.

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Was about to post this updatein the "What you doing" thread and saw this one. So timely.

Just finished laying the tile. Tomorrow I clean it and grout, Saturday - seal and install the door.

I am guessing I "saved" $10,000 - but for the work I did, can understannd how that is earned. Didn't do the full bath - shower and window only, plus "unexpected" including a trip to an urgent care facility for 3 stitches when pulling the tiled ceiling down and the crowbar slipped and my glasses frame cutting me.

Estimating I have about $1500 in. Took down to bare wall and it includes...
1. new window
2. new fixtures
3. removed poly pipes and replaced both the shower and toliet line with PEX. Will do others later (future projects) and fully convert the hous to PEX.
4. Exteroir wall framing was randomly placed scraps by the prior installer.Framed appropriately in 16" centers and added insulation that was totally missing.
5. Removed old cast iron drainand luckily the pipe was PVC
6. Hardibacker board three sides and ceiling, butelected not to tile the ceiling
7. Tile, thinset, and grout really add up.
8. Drywall the ceiling and repaired the transitions in the walls.

Unbelivable abount of worksover the past month.

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