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    Confessions of a Cubs fan

    Hello, my name is Tim, and I am a cubs fan. Whew, glad I got that off my chest (they say that is the first step to recovery). I have been a cubs fan for a little more than half my life. That equates to roughly a decade and a half. I look back at why I’m a cubs fan and I can’t exactly pinpoint it. Perhaps it’s the coolness that is Wrigley. Perhaps it is Harry Cary. Perhaps it is the shots of all those hotties during the broadcasts, who knows.

    I will tell you one thing though, I am a real cubs fan. Not a diehard baseball fan, I can’t tell you who hit the winning run of the ’97 World Series or list off a bunch of stats from the past, but I do enjoy baseball. This is important to mention because Cubs fans get a bad rap. I understand why though. But one has to realize that going to Wrigley is like going to the top of the Sears Tower. It’s a Chicago thing, like seeing liberty bell or the stars on Hollywood Boulevard. So when the Cubs can’t even finish a season in which they win half their games, in my lifetime this has happened 15 of 22 years, and they still manage to average 2.5 million in attendance during that time, it makes people wonder. Why are we so supportive of our “loveable losers”, who knows but at least it pumps the money in.

    This great attendance, the power of their parent company, the national appeal of the Cubs, all of this contributes to their ability to spend like high rollers. And they have recently; their 2008 roster massed a bill of $118,000,000. That’s a lot of cash. In fact it’s the 8th highest in the Majors with only four teams spending significantly more (that would be NY, NY, Boston, & Detroit, at over 133 million). This highly paid and highly talented roster garnered the best record in the National League this year. In fact, 2008 was an incredibly exciting season from the start; from the roars over Fukadome at the beginning of the season, to the four game sweep of the Brewers mid-season--securing Central Division domination, to a no hitter and a near promise of a World Series appearance at the end. Yet, in true Cubs fashion, this was all a lie of sorts. The Cubs didn’t win a single game in the post season, in fact. This was the second year in a row this happened. With Chicago’s ability to get swept so often, it’s a real wonder why there is so much garbage in the streets of the Windy City. We are sweep experts…

    I heard the other day that a rooftop owner is losing out on a couple million dollars in revenue because the cubs won’t be putting on a show across the street this post season. Too bad for him, but I’m out of October entertainment. Or am I? I think, I might have found a new team to root for. And before you go off and accuse me of being a fair weather fan, I need to remind you that a lifetime of failure, a century of failure in fact, makes each and every cubs fan eligible to pick a new team. In fact, I think Bud Selig should give Cubs fans vouchers to go purchase gear from their new team (I spent $20 on a fitted Cubs hat at a game this year thinking maybe that would be bought during the World Series season of 2008…wrong!).

    What team is perfect for the Cubs fan? I think it’s the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. Yes, they are perfect. They are, in fact, the anti-Cub. Everything about them is different.

    Let’s start with their fans. You ever watch a Devil Ray’s game? No one is there. Tampa Bay is as consistent with their NOT showing up as Chicago is with showing up. I use to make fun of this, but I think I embrace it now. Where Cubs fans will show up regardless of the fact that they are not winning games, Tampa Bay fans have demonstrated this year that they won’t show up when their team has the best record in baseball.

    Yeah, the best record in baseball, in the American League. They did this while spending a mere $44,000,000. That’s the second cheapest roster in baseball, ahead only of the lowly Marlin’s. Carlos Zambrano will make near that much in two seasons. That roster also happens to be the 2nd youngest in baseball (according to Sports Illustrated) which means that they are making smart decisions with that money.

    Smart decisions, let’s take a moment and examine some of the decisions the Cubs have made in recent years:
    Don Baylor
    Dusty Baker
    Sammy Sosa
    Letting "Bartman in"
    Blaming Bartman for a loss
    ...ok, those two are on us...
    Nomar Garciaparra
    Juan Pierre
    Mark Prior (ok...maybe a free pass on this one)
    Zambrano pitching in game 2…Fukadome batting 2nd in game 1


    The Ray’s have no fan base and yet they manage their team correctly. I kind of doubt they’ll repeat next year but in the event that they fail, us Cubs fans will be more than prepared. But at least you know that at $44,000,000 a year you can afford to go to a game and get pretty good seats which is more than you can say about going to Wrigley. And hell, the weather is much warmer…and they beat the Sox. Now if only they can go beat "Da SOX" we'll have something here. So, GO RAYS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by timmyquest View Post
    Not a diehard baseball fan, I canít tell you who hit the winning run of the í97 World Series or list off a bunch of stats from the past, but I do enjoy baseball.
    C'mon man, it was Edgar Renterria, off of Chuck Nagy. Craig Counsel scored the winning run. (No, I didn't have to look that up )

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    Quote Originally Posted by apricissimus View Post
    C'mon man, it was Edgar Renterria, off of Chuck Nagy. Craig Counsel scored the winning run. (No, I didn't have to look that up )


    I'm really happy that someone so readily knew that.

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    The Devil Rays (er... Rays; force of habit) are a really fun team. They've had a lot of really good, young players for a long time now, and I'm actually surprised that it's taken them this long to get good. They always seemed like a team that has grossly underachieved.

    I think the Red Sox will have a tough time with them in the ALCS, like they have all season. In the last two Sox/Rays series, first place was on the line each time. The Sox won the first game and looked poised to finally take over first like everyone expected, but the Rays came back each time and won the series. I think that really shows that they are for real.

    The low payroll is a huge handicap though, and it'll be tough for them to be perennially every year if they have one of the lowest payrolls in the league. You can obviously have success with a low payroll (like the Twins and A's in recent years), and a high payroll does not guarantee success (Tigers, Yankees this year), but it sure helps. I don't think it's a coincidence that the Yankees made the playoffs 13 years in a row while consistently having the highest payroll in the league. Or that the Red Sox make the playoffs more often than not these days while having the second highest.

    The disparity between the haves and the have nots is very big in modern baseball, and that's an advantage for the cubs. With an advantage like that, they'll eventually roll a 7. And it will be one of the greatest moments of your life.

    Before the Red Sox won the World Series in 2004, there was a minority deluded folk (not real baseball fans, IMO) who felt that it would be better if the Red Sox never won the WS. Like it was part of their character to be long-suffering losers or something. That's ridiculous. You are going to LOVE IT when the Cubs finally win the World Series. It's much better, believe me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timmyquest View Post


    I'm really happy that someone so readily knew that.
    Did you know that Craig Counsel also scored the winning run in the 2001 WS? Interesting factoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apricissimus View Post
    Before the Red Sox won the World Series in 2004, there was a minority deluded folk (not real baseball fans, IMO) who felt that it would be better if the Red Sox never won the WS. Like it was part of their character to be long-suffering losers or something. That's ridiculous. You are going to LOVE IT when the Cubs finally win the World Series. It's much better, believe me.
    Oh trust me, they are here in Chicago too. But those aren't baseball fans. Those are the people that go to Cubs games because it's a Cubs game and not a Cubs game (in the sense that its a baseball game). You really can go to Wrigley and have a good time while not paying much attention to the game. The whole thing, before the game, during the game, after the game. Wrigley is a very fun place, regardless of what happens on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apricissimus View Post
    C'mon man, it was Edgar Renterria, off of Chuck Nagy. Craig Counsel scored the winning run. (No, I didn't have to look that up )
    I remember that, Craig Counsel was awesome that game. Then in 2001 when he helped defeat the evil empire.
    "Don't give up, don't ever give up" jimmyv

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    Daily Show was hard on Cubs fans last night which, I think, was actually 2 nights ago.

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    There is a sound drop KNBR 680 (SF Bay Area) plays a lot of Ron Santo chucking his headset down in disgust.
    "Double play! Inning over!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostic View Post
    There is a sound drop KNBR 680 (SF Bay Area) plays a lot of Ron Santo chucking his headset down in disgust.
    "Double play! Inning over!"
    Ron Santo is something else. I love listening to those WGN broadcasts but it has nothing to do with the baseball. Before every game (at least for a good part of the season) they would have an interview with Ron Santo and Lou Pinella. That was some entertaining stuff...

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    Hey Tim.

    Glad to hear you are taking this in stride, and even though I am not a hard core Cubs fan, I have been to Wrigley, and find myself always rooting for them to get to the series when it looks like they have a shot.

    I am sure that this is often heard in Chicago, as in other cities this time of year... Maybe next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Darwin View Post
    Hey Tim.

    Glad to hear you are taking this in stride, and even though I am not a hard core Cubs fan, I have been to Wrigley, and find myself always rooting for them to get to the series when it looks like they have a shot.

    I am sure that this is often heard in Chicago, as in other cities this time of year... Maybe next year.
    What, you think i'm kidding? I wish i thought of this, that man is brilliant.

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    What?!?!?!?! I thought you were a cricket fan now?

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    I tried it for a day, i decided i don't like getting up at 3am to listen to BBC broadcasts of the 3 day long matches.

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    F the Cubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wordbiker View Post

    What's frightening is how coherent Hickey was in posting that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    F the Cubs.
    And the mets

    What'ya say pcad? Wana go in on some 'Rays season tickets? I bet they are dirt cheap.

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