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Old 10-17-08, 07:10 PM   #1
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Teenagers!!

I live with one.

So, I come home from work. An extra boy and girl are on my porch - hanging out. That's a no no. Especially boys. Extra no no. I let it slide. Then we had to feed them. OK, fine. Two extra kids. No problem. THEN! At dark-thirty, a car pulls up and three more boys get dropped off and then said car leaves. My wife and I give the big WTF look to each other. We call in the teen daughter.

"Who?"
"What?"
"Where?"

The only response was a huge C.F. of excuses and non-truths. So, I put on my big girl panties and tell her to call the ring leader in the house.

"Did my daughter say it was OK for you to come over?"
"Yes sir."
"Well I'm sorry but I did not. She's my girl and I am going to do what it takes to protect her. Do you understand?"
"Yes sir."
"Next time she wants you to come over ask her if she has passed it through me. Do you understand that?"
"Yes sir."
"Who brought you here?"
"My mom."
"When is she coming back."
"Right now."
"Good."

My daughter was totally embarrassed. But, like I told her, it wouldn't have happened if the rules were followed.

Remember that Hickeydog. Don't F with a man when his daughter's at stake.
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Old 10-17-08, 07:17 PM   #2
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Teen years....aaaaaagggghhhh!
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Old 10-17-08, 07:19 PM   #3
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good advice, it'd be even stranger yet if there was a 20 or 30yr old in the mix
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"My mom."
"When is she coming back."
"Right now."
Good ****in' answer, kid! You're a relatively smart one.
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I survived the(My Sons) teenage years. 16 and 18 were the worst.
Very tuff communicating with someone who knows more than I do, though
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Old 10-17-08, 07:56 PM   #6
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You better hire someone to follow her around 24-7 now. Now that she's learned she's not allowed the company of boys in the safety and supervision of her own home, she'll have to meet up with them elsewhere, likely where no one is keeping an eye on them.
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You better hire someone to follow her around 24-7 now. Now that she's learned she's not allowed the company of boys in the safety and supervision of her own home, she'll have to meet up with them elsewhere, likely where no one is keeping an eye on them.

What pacific said. My daughter is 19, and in her early teen years, they hung out here. Small house: I could keep an ear into all the conversations and talk. (Big rule: doors stay open!) I knew her friends, knew their parents because we would chat when they would come and drop them off and pick them up. Those of us that opened our houses for 'hang out' - I knew what kind of parents they were, and we all watched over all of our (teenage) children for each other, boy or girl. Yes, we fed them, so we had the comfort to know they were safe, fed, and watched over. Even teenagers! Maybe especially teenagers...
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What pacific said. My daughter is 19, and in her early teen years, they hung out here. Small house: I could keep an ear into all the conversations and talk. (Big rule: doors stay open!) I knew her friends, knew their parents because we would chat when they would come and drop them off and pick them up. Those of us that opened our houses for 'hang out' - I knew what kind of parents they were, and we all watched over all of our (teenage) children for each other, boy or girl. Yes, we fed them, so we had the comfort to know they were safe, fed, and watched over. Even teenagers! Maybe especially teenagers...
Well, I agree with what you're saying. Might not match what Sub was saying though.

I had a couple select girls that I hung out with as a teenager. Their parents knew me, mine knew them. They had no prob with any of us hanging out at each others house WHENEVER. Totally cool situation.

BUT, if I were to invite a few bros over that they didn't know... **** would hit the fan. You gotta draw the line somewhere.

Now I've got a 7 year old girl. I loath the day I have to rant like Sub. It will come though. I just know it.
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Old 10-17-08, 09:32 PM   #9
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Thank God I was an easy teenager and had no friends.
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Old 10-17-08, 09:35 PM   #10
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Pretty much.
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At around 12 I am going to shove my sons into a barrel. I will feed them through the bungle hole of the barrel until their 18th birthday, at which time I will drive the bung into the barrell. If my wife and I have done a good job of raising them, they should be able to get out.

At least that is MY plan.

My wife has not told me what the real plan is yet for dealing with the teen age years.
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At least with my kids, my son, older by 2 years was waaaayy more innocent than some of my daughter's girlfriends. Luckily I bless the Nintendo of the time that kept my son and his friends oblivious to the come-ons from one particular young vixenish girl!

I was far from the perfect parent navigating those teenage years, but my son, now 21, told me recently that it took him months and months to stop feeling guilty drinking with his friends, even though he was 'legal'... SCORE!!
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The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching.

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Old 10-18-08, 02:32 AM   #14
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Well, our rule is: If you want friends over, tell us first. We will then decide who and when - if at all. But a boys and girls mix will be one to one and it will be supervised totally. We will also decide how long they stay.
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I'm all for electronic surveilance, wiretapping, record keeping, gps logs, covert video cameras, internet chat sniffing.... and if everything fails, the last line of defence shall be that injection thingy that prevents pregnancies for 5 years.
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Love that quote!
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I'm all for electronic surveilance, wiretapping, record keeping, gps logs, covert video cameras, internet chat sniffing.... and if everything fails, the last line of defence shall be that injection thingy that prevents pregnancies for 5 years.
Get them the HPV vaccination early, too. It's truly one of the best things you could do for your girls. HPV and it's cancerous outcomes far outlast any boyfriend or possible pregnancy.
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My tip: do what the father of a date did to me back in high school. Have her bring the dude in to meet you.

When the introduction is made, make sure to find yourself cleaning a gun.
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My tip: do what the father of a date did to me back in high school. Have her bring the dude in to meet you.

When the introduction is made, make sure to find yourself cleaning a gun.
True story:
Last year I came home and one of her "boy friends" was there. They were making a pizza. I came into the kitchen, said "hello," kissed my wife, then walked out and said, "honey if you need me I'll be in the bedroom cleaning my gun."

My daughter said he never wanted to come back. she told us this last night after our long talk.
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My tip: do what the father of a date did to me back in high school. Have her bring the dude in to meet you.

When the introduction is made, make sure to find yourself cleaning a gun.
I have two boys, but I will definitely do this if any dudes come to pick either on up for a date.
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My tip: do what the father of a date did to me back in high school. Have her bring the dude in to meet you.

When the introduction is made, make sure to find yourself cleaning a gun.
This reminds me of a time when i took a girl out for the first time back in High school. I went to pick her up at her home. Unbeknownst to me, her folks were getting divorced and her Dad was moving out. I had to wait in the living for the girl to get ready(surprise, surprise). Dad was packing his hunting gear and taking it out to his vehicle. He made a point of walking past the living room with his many rifles. When said girl was finally ready, her Dad asked me "What time will you have my daughter home?" My response was "Whenever you want me to, sir!"

This thread makes me glad I only have sons and that they are 3 and 5 years old.
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When the introduction is made, make sure to find yourself cleaning a gun.
Actually, my buddy and I were at his house cleaning our guns (we both had out two Ruger 10/22s; he a Sig 226 and me a 1911A1) after we had spent the morning punching little round holes in paper that morning when his Sis-In-Law's BF shows up. She was 16, he was 19 and a real piece of work. Comes in thinking he owns the house. My friend did not like him. So he's in the kitchen rummaging around the fridge grabs a soda out and walks into the living room where we are.

My buddy: "So you guys going out?"

BF: "Uh, yeah. What are those?"

Me: "What do you think they are?"

BF: "Guns."

Me: "Well, that's what they are."

BF: "Tell _____ I'll wait in the car."

Me: "No problem. Be sure to put the soda back in the fridge where you got it and ASK next time."

My buddy looks at me and starts laughing his rear off. His wife thought it was pretty funny, too.
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When the introduction is made, make sure to find yourself cleaning a gun.
Which gun? I got about 20 guns.
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see, this is why I have no kids.

well, that and they cut into the bike funds.
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