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    Macs are contagious...

    I get a MacBook because of a class I'm taking. Now I have family members liking the machine, and most likely will be buying iMacs because of the UI, and the fact that they are easier to maintain than their existing Windows boxes. The main thing they like is how relatively quickly an OS X box starts up. Even with the kernel extensions from PGP (I put whole disk encryption on every machine I own) and VMWare, it still goes from zero to being ready to go in less than 60 seconds. Comparatively, my Windows machines which sport at 2-4x the RAM of this MacBook take 3-5 minutes to get from the password prompt of BestCrypt to logged in and usable.

    Its not like MacOS has a monopoly on fast startup times. I've seen AIX and Solaris boxes boot about the same. Of course, my RHEL server boots in less than 30 seconds as well. Wonder what it is.

    Oh... for a unix weenie like myself, the command:

    sudo nvram boot-args="-v"

    makes any x86 Mac boot and shut down the way UNIX machines traditionally do.

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    Macs are contagious...


    So is Chlamydia. It doesn't mean I want it.

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    i got a mac, it's pretty good - although not perfect by any means.

    recently i started to become extremely uninterested in computers. as long as it connects to the internet, it's all good. for us, they've pretty much become toss away items with a life cycle of only a few years.

    when someone starts talking about memory or graphics cards or whatever my mind goes numb with boredom.

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    The only thing that keeps me away from macs are the limited games available to it.
    and no, I don't want to run them through an emulator.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    The only thing that keeps me away from macs are the limited games available to it.
    and no, I don't want to run them through an emulator.
    Windows Vista runs faster on a new Mac running Parallels or VMware than it does on most Intel based PCs. Because Macs use Intel chips. Fast Intel chips.

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    No macs for me. Espically with Dead Space, Far Cry 2, and Fallout 3 coming out this month.

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    A girl once asked me to give her twelve inches and make it hurt. I had to make love to her 3 times and then punch her in the nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Windows Vista runs faster on a new Mac running Parallels or VMware than it does on most Intel based PCs. Because Macs use Intel chips. Fast Intel chips.
    except the fast intel chips tweaked to go even faster than designed aren't possible with macs and decent ati or nvidia video card hardware for macs are limited.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    now if OSX was available commercially for just regular PCs... then I'd love to get it for my computer.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    except the fast intel chips tweaked to go even faster than designed aren't possible with macs and decent ati or nvidia video card hardware for macs are limited.
    The new Mac laptops have vastly superior nvidia video boards, the update to the iMacs which should be coming within 30 days or so will also have that technology, so it may well address your concern. Stay tuned.

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    you've got my attention with that one.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    I never really use a Mac until I started my current job a little over two years ago. I've learned to hate it. There are a hundred little things that annoy the heck of me on a regular basis with this machine.

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    Can you find me a Mac that will let me run an SLI or Crossfire videocard setup for ~$1000 sans monitor?

    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    A girl once asked me to give her twelve inches and make it hurt. I had to make love to her 3 times and then punch her in the nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psydotek View Post
    Can you find me a Mac that will let me run an SLI or Crossfire videocard setup for ~$1000 sans monitor?
    Can you find me a Windows machine that doesn't suck because it has to run Windows? And spare me the idiot Linux posts. I don't care how nice the hardware is pal. If it's Windows, it's lipstick on a friggin pig.

    Let the Computer Flame Wars commence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apricissimus View Post
    I never really use a Mac until I started my current job a little over two years ago. I've learned to hate it. There are a hundred little things that annoy the heck of me on a regular basis with this machine.
    I use both windows and mac on a daily basis and the windows oddities annoy me more than the mac oddities. (Why is there a limit to number of open windows and why doesn't windows tell you when you've reached it? Why does the windows updater have to remind me to restart the computer every ten minutes? Why is there finish and cancel button at the end of an installation wizard even though the installation is done and can not be canceled?)

    I guess everyone has their own set of things that annoy them.

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    So, the moral here is use what's best suited for your needs.

    Been running Windows Vista for a year with zero crashes or BSODs.

    The term "suck" when regarding an OS is more personal opinion than anything. Not being able to find hardware/software to meet your requirements at a certain price point is a bit different.

    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    A girl once asked me to give her twelve inches and make it hurt. I had to make love to her 3 times and then punch her in the nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psydotek View Post
    So, the moral here is use what's best suited for your needs.

    Been running Windows Vista for a year with zero crashes or BSODs.

    The term "suck" when regarding an OS is more personal opinion than anything. Not being able to find hardware/software to meet your requirements at a certain price point is a bit different.

    Cooler heads will never prevail on a Computer Thread on my watch pal. In conclusion, Windows sucks, Macs RULE.

    Discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psydotek View Post
    So, the moral here is use what's best suited for your needs.

    Been running Windows Vista for a year with zero crashes or BSODs.
    DING! DING! DING!

    I love my work laptop running Vista 64, my personal laptop running Ubuntu, my home-theater PC running Vista Ultimate, and the Mac Pro I have access to at work when needed.

    I'd like to have a MacBook and a workstation class machine with Vista 64 at home.

    I would have those things, if I hadn't started buying bike stuff.
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    I love my Macs. I've used Windows at work in the past and wouldn't ever consider buying a Windows computer. Mac all the way! Long live Macs! Someone should go bronze Steve Jobs.


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    Solaris is the way to go actually...

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Cooler heads will never prevail on a Computer Thread on my watch pal. In conclusion, Windows sucks, Macs RULE.

    Discuss.
    windows sucks because there's too much garbage drivers loaded into the drivers.
    mac sucks because there aren't enough drivers to run your own hardware.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psydotek View Post
    So, the moral here is use what's best suited for your needs.

    Been running Windows Vista for a year with zero crashes or BSODs.

    The term "suck" when regarding an OS is more personal opinion than anything. Not being able to find hardware/software to meet your requirements at a certain price point is a bit different.
    you're not using it correctly.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    ...you're not using it correctly.
    I was waiting for someone to say that.

    Rather i think i am using it correctly and everyone else doesn't know what they're doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
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    macs don't BSOD, but they sure as hell kernel panic!
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    I get all my Microsoft stuff for fire-sale prices at the company store because my fiancee works for the company. I'll stick with Microsoft because, for me, it's dirt cheap and works well enough for what I do.

    I think we paid $40.00 for Vista Ultimate. I get most of my 360 games for under $15.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoXYZ View Post
    Solaris is the way to go actually...
    Wasn't that a really dull scifi flick with G. Clooney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Cooler heads will never prevail on a Computer Thread on my watch pal. In conclusion, Windows sucks, Macs RULE.

    Discuss.

    Nothing to discuss.
    People fought doing away with witch tossing and anti-flat earth theories too.
    Eventually they'll get with it. In about 4 more 'new' OS scams or 3 years Microsoft time

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