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Old 10-28-08, 01:21 PM   #1
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The Green Life

I have decided I want to live the green life...

I have watched some shows on TV about some green homes, and you don't have to give up luxuries to be green.

I see some 8,000 square foot green homes, and wonder why I am living in my modest 1,100 square foot ranch home... Why should I live in 1/8 the space when I can apparently live in 8 times the space with vaulted ceilings, and get my home on TV because I care so much about the environment? I just need to heat my 8,000 square foot McMansion with some hi-tech heat pump supplemented by solar energy and spend only 3 times each month what I currently spend on heating, and consume 8 times the resources to build the house to begin with...

I can have my 400 square foot kitchen with brick lined oven, and my man cave with 65 inch tv and stereo with 36 inch subwoofer that can shatter the neighbor's eardrums, as long as I grow grass on the roof...

And of course, I could park my Cadillac Escalade Hybrid in the garage... after all, how much more green can one be than to drive a hybrid that gets 20 miles per gallon???

Ah, it is going to be so sweet to live green.
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If I wear a green tux, can I be your butler/valet?
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I wanna sail away on one of these.
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There y'all go throwing things into the thread that are actually eco-friendly.
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Give me a tent, a bicycle, and a sleeping bag and I'll show you how to live green....
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I would ride this around on the heated indoor cycling track at Rancho Darwin

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I saw this the other day on CNN

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Dont forget to buy a lot of green paint for around home.
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In all seriousness though I lived in an adobe house in New Mexico that was built in the 20's from materials just outside it's door. It was cool during the hot days and warm at night with a little fire in the chimenea. I don't see why people build ranch style houses in areas like that when they are so inefficient or for that matter people who live in Phoenix and want a nice green lawn
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My house is about 1000 square feet and was built in 1947. In the summer it's warm, but tolerable with just a couple of well-placed fans, which is quite a feat in Tennessee. In the winter it stays plenty warm with a fire in the fireplace and/or a couple of space heaters. I should also mention that it has no insulation. ;p My apartment (I'm not living in the house yet because I'm remodeling it) is "modern" and "efficient" yet, to stay cool in the summer, the A/C is on almost constantly, even set at 80 degrees, and in the winter the heat is on much of the time despite being set at 65 degrees or less. I'm rather skeptical of the energy efficiency of many newer houses.
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And of course, I could park my Cadillac Escalade Hybrid in the garage... after all, how much more green can one be than to drive a hybrid that gets 20 miles per gallon???
20? Ha! More like 12. Downhill. With a tailwind. And the engine shut off. I bet it's not even available in the color green!

I got yer eco-friendly car right here:

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I've always wanted to build an underground home.
I've been in several that are just stunning. Open, filled with sunlight, and with an effectively zero heating/cooling cost.

One of the neatest had an arbor attached to the house at the roofline. Since the roof was sod, they planted grapes to grow onto the arbor. During the summer months the vines leafed out, providing shade. During the winter months the vines shed their leaves allowing sunlight to flood into the house.

I currently live fairly green. I live in a 2,500 sqf house that is well shaded in a pecan/walnut orchard. It's well shaded and has a metal roof, no real need for an AC even though I live in the South. During the winter I heat with wood, turning my furnace on only sparingly. My heating/cooling bills are rarely over $50.

We also grow a majority of our own food, and buy what we can from local farmers.

Living green usually = living as your grandparents did.

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I spent part of my childhood in a house that was built out of big sandstone blocks in the 1930's. We didn't have A/C. Just opened the windows at night and closed them in the morning. It was a pretty decent concept.

Now I live in a condo that is partially underground. It saves a bunch on utilities in the hot desert. Plus the neighbors above and to the sides give some insulation, too. ...Can't say that the folks upstairs are saving that much, though.

...But, yes to the OP. I really think I need a hybrid SUV, to remodel my entire place, 20 of those re-usable bags that I was b---ing about on another thread, some solar panels, a tankless hot water heater...oh, and some green Kermit stickers! Then I can die peacefully, knowing that I have saved the environment. Just make sure to fashion my coffin out of some rapidly renewable wood source.

Seriously, I agree that a lot of this is just another form of advertising and consumerism. I also think it's silly to rush out to buy "green" stuff to replace the perfectly good stuff you already have. On the other hand, when my appliances die (hopefully many years from now), I will replace them with more energy and water efficient ones. When my little economy car dies (also hopefully many years from now), I hope to replace it with something even more energy efficient (maybe a bike that I already have?). When my water heater dies, I'll research and consider tankless or solar. If I should need to do major repairs/replacements on my house, I'd rather use more eco-friendly materials.

...So I am glad the stuff is out there. In the meantime, it makes more sense to me to use the hell out of what I have before buying more.
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Seriously, I agree that a lot of this is just another form of advertising and consumerism. I also think it's silly to rush out to buy "green" stuff to replace the perfectly good stuff you already have.
I think this is the key...

Even from a pragmatic perspective, I once considered the impact of replacing an old car with a newer more efficient car, and realized quickly that when the payments for the new car far exceeded the amount I was spending on fuel, maintenance and insurance combined for my paid-for car realized I was better off using what I had until it was no longer useful... even at 16-18 mpg.

I just wonder why nobody on these shows presenting "green" homes points out to the people designing the homes that the best things they can do to make them green are:

1) Make them closer to work and other facilities you visit (within reason).

2) Reducing the physical footprint reduces the eco-footprint.

Every one of them (except for a very few) build huge homes, miles away from everything, which requires more real estate for the home, their driveway, and roads in the infrastructure.

Maybe the term green should start to embrace a stance of targeting a less intrusive physical footprint (three dimensionally) as well as the currently popular carbon footprint model.
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Maybe the term green should start to embrace a stance of targeting a less intrusive physical footprint (three dimensionally) as well as the currently popular carbon footprint model.
We Americans are more concerned about personal comfort and convenience than truly helping the very environment we live in. That's why you see people who live 2 miles from work "going green" by replacing a few light bulbs instead of biking or walking to work. Not that there's anything wrong with using more efficient light bulbs, but that's a very, very minor change compared to what many of us could be doing.
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I look good in green, or so I have been told.


It hides your figure too much.
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I have decided I want to live the green life...

I have watched some shows on TV about some green homes, and you don't have to give up luxuries to be green.

I see some 8,000 square foot green homes, and wonder why I am living in my modest 1,100 square foot ranch home... Why should I live in 1/8 the space when I can apparently live in 8 times the space with vaulted ceilings, and get my home on TV because I care so much about the environment? I just need to heat my 8,000 square foot McMansion with some hi-tech heat pump supplemented by solar energy and spend only 3 times each month what I currently spend on heating, and consume 8 times the resources to build the house to begin with...

I can have my 400 square foot kitchen with brick lined oven, and my man cave with 65 inch tv and stereo with 36 inch subwoofer that can shatter the neighbor's eardrums, as long as I grow grass on the roof...

And of course, I could park my Cadillac Escalade Hybrid in the garage... after all, how much more green can one be than to drive a hybrid that gets 20 miles per gallon???

Ah, it is going to be so sweet to live green.
I'd have to have a indoor heated chemical free swimming pool to go along with it.
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It hides your figure too much.
But it keeps the halitosis from causing widespread panic.
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