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    How to live life to the fullest?

    I believe the following things:

    1. Time is worth more than money.
    2. Money does buy happiness, but happiness is cheaper than you think.

    You know what I really want? I really want to ride across America. I don't need a million dollars to do that. I need $7,000 at the most, and that's doing it the expensive way with a tour group and hotel rooms. I do need a month's worth of time, though.

    Any frugal person willing to make sacrifices can save $7,000 in a year (trust me, I've done it earning less than $20,000/year), but how many people can get a month off of work and still keep their jobs? Not me, and I'm not willing to wait 20 years to earn the seniority to be able to do so.

    I get bored holding a job anyway, so the easy solution for me is to blow off the traditional career track. Instead of working 30 years for retirement (when you may not get the benefits you worked for anyway) I would rather work for a while, save up some money, go on a mini-retirement (while stashing away money in an IRA in case I ever get too old to work), then work for another while towards my next goal.

    Here's the problem: I went to school with the traditional career track in mind. I need to figure out the best way to make decent money, yet not be tied down to years and years of work. So far I've come up with 2 ways to do this.

    1. Screw making as much money as possible. Work seasonal jobs in fun places (ski resorts, parks, etc.). This sounds nice, but the money isn't all that great. My mini-retirements might have to be shorter than ideal.

    2. Work the highest-paying, most miserable job for a year or so at a time. This would give me a longer mini-retirement, but I'm not really sure where to start.

    Which strategy do you guys think makes the most sense? If you favor the 2nd strategy, what are some jobs you have in mind? I have a degree, but I'm not really qualified for much. I would be open to getting some sort of training/certification under the right circumstances. Just remember that I wouldn't want working for only 1 year at a time to be a huge red flag when searching for my next job.

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    I have friends who work seasonal jobs, they seem to get the most out of life, even if they rarely are making more then $10/hr. Some of the most seasoned travelers I know simply decided to quit there job and start traveling.

    I think the big trick is to live a simple life and don't go into debt. If you can do that, you can always find the money and time to travel and play.

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    Free time and the freedom to really be able to do what you want with it is worth more than any amount of money to me.

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    Why does it have to be either/or all the time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSPlo View Post
    2. Work the highest-paying, most miserable job for a year or so at a time. This would give me a longer mini-retirement, but I'm not really sure where to start.
    What's your degree in? If I wasn't so dead set on working normal hours close to the family, I'd have been mostly happy working in the oil field. The hours are terrible (most hands were working ~80 a week) and the conditions are rough (if you have to be on site from midnight to 8AM in the coldest hell of winter, so be it) and not exactly safe, but the money is good and you'll have cooler stories than just about anybody else. If you're working as a field hand and absorb enough technical knowledge, you'll be valuable enough to hire just about any time you want. Plus, you'll have the opportunity to work in some very interesting places.

    It's a cool job if you have zero attachments to the normal world and can handle dealing with some very pushy *******s.

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    Working on fishing-boats in Alaska pays darn good as well. Some friends of mine did that in school and a single month's salary was enough to pay for their housing, tuition and all living expenses for an entire year. Too bad they pissed it all away on booze and drugs. Just saving some of that each time would've yielded them an early retirement package.

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    I can take a month off and still have my job... get a well-paying job that has at least 4 weeks of paid vacation and you'll be all set. No need to live like a pauper to get what you want.
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    I have found that cruising the internet in search of Gay Sock/Puppet threads has made my life very full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LSPlo View Post
    I believe the following things:

    1. Time is worth more than money.
    2. Money does buy happiness, but happiness is cheaper than you think.

    You know what I really want? I really want to ride across America. I don't need a million dollars to do that. I need $7,000 at the most, and that's doing it the expensive way with a tour group and hotel rooms. I do need a month's worth of time, though.

    Any frugal person willing to make sacrifices can save $7,000 in a year (trust me, I've done it earning less than $20,000/year), but how many people can get a month off of work and still keep their jobs? Not me, and I'm not willing to wait 20 years to earn the seniority to be able to do so.

    I get bored holding a job anyway, so the easy solution for me is to blow off the traditional career track. Instead of working 30 years for retirement (when you may not get the benefits you worked for anyway) I would rather work for a while, save up some money, go on a mini-retirement (while stashing away money in an IRA in case I ever get too old to work), then work for another while towards my next goal.

    Here's the problem: I went to school with the traditional career track in mind. I need to figure out the best way to make decent money, yet not be tied down to years and years of work. So far I've come up with 2 ways to do this.

    1. Screw making as much money as possible. Work seasonal jobs in fun places (ski resorts, parks, etc.). This sounds nice, but the money isn't all that great. My mini-retirements might have to be shorter than ideal.

    2. Work the highest-paying, most miserable job for a year or so at a time. This would give me a longer mini-retirement, but I'm not really sure where to start.

    Which strategy do you guys think makes the most sense? If you favor the 2nd strategy, what are some jobs you have in mind? I have a degree, but I'm not really qualified for much. I would be open to getting some sort of training/certification under the right circumstances. Just remember that I wouldn't want working for only 1 year at a time to be a huge red flag when searching for my next job.
    If someone had the answer to your question Im sure we'd all be doing it as we'd all rather be cycling
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    Why not have it all? Have a job that pays decent and you enjoy.
    Save your vacation time.
    Take your stocked vacation time maybe 2x a year and go on some crazy adventures 2 wks at a shot.

    That's what I do
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    Live it your way. Don't let anyone tell you how, it's your life. just have the maturity to take responsibility for your actions, both good and bad.
    " The love you withhold is the pain you carry, lifetime after lifetime."

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    find what moves you, and let it do that

    the rest is a bunch of crap
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    Eat that giant 20 lbs burger. I guarantee you'll be the fullest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ka_Jun View Post
    Eat that giant 20 lbs burger. I guarantee you'll be the fullest.
    for two-three days, anyway.

    the rest is a bunch of crap. No, I mean, literally.
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    some of the best times of my life were when i was making the least amount of money (or none at all).

    however, the problem with not making money is that eventually you won't want to work at all. i'd love to blow my money and have nothing but fun all the time, but i don't want to be 85 years old and still working to make a living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgoat View Post
    for two-three days, anyway.

    the rest is a bunch of crap. No, I mean, literally.
    You sure about that? 20lbs of meat would probably require Roto-Rooter or the equivalent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ka_Jun View Post
    You sure about that? 20lbs of meat would probably require Roto-Rooter or the equivalent.
    Uh-Oh; Better call Joe The Plumber!!
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    People whose sig line does not include a jsharr quote annoy me.

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