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Old 11-20-08, 03:23 PM   #1
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Ethical question

Today I decided to google my name and see what came up. The first hit was a facebook profile, which was expected. On the first page, however, I noticed that my name was part of a file uploaded onto my college's FTP server. Curious, I click the link. Guess what I find?

This is my English professor's entire gradebook excel file. Every grade that every student has received is on this page, as well as the projected grade of each student. Hmmm... I wonder what else I can find. Yep, so the study guide for the final exam -- which wasn't supposed to be given to us for at least another week -- is on here. I'm not sure what to do here. People's grades are generally considered private information; I'm sure she wouldn't tell me my neighbor's grade in the class if I just asked. Should I say something to her? Should I pretend it never happened?
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Old 11-20-08, 03:25 PM   #2
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Send her an email explaining the situation. She obviously doesn't know everyone can access her files.
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I'd say something, that stuff shouldn't have public access - we're very careful of student's information, and even for the class my boss teaches - we're very careful of where her test information, assisnments, etc is.
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More importantly: Can you alter the files?
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print it and hand it to her.
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I'd call her and then send her this link. FERPA (I work at a University and just finished my ethics training)
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Old 11-20-08, 03:38 PM   #7
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Old 11-20-08, 03:46 PM   #9
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Seeing as how you are a cow, I would contact PETA.
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Old 11-20-08, 04:19 PM   #10
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School's IT staff need to go back to school, methinks.
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Leave an anonymous note and study the guide for that test.
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You should tell her face to face and show her. She might not trust an email unless she knows you.
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Thanks everybody. I have corresponded with her via email many times, and I think I'll send her a message now.
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Message sent. I kept it very short, concise, and linked her to the appropriate section of the FERPA act.
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Oh, trust me, she knows FERPA. Every college instructor knows about it. Good job on pointing that out to her.
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I took it a step further:
"Being a privacy matter, I have not disclosed my knowledge of this with anyone except you. I would refer you to Part 99 Title 34 of the FERPA act: http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/fpco/ferpa/index.html"
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That's def worth some extra credit.
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Pretend it never happened...be a hero share it with your friends.
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after you get it straightened out don't forget to visit those teacher rating sites.
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I took it a step further:
"Being a privacy matter, I have not disclosed my knowledge of this with anyone except you. I would refer you to Part 99 Title 34 of the FERPA act: http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/fpco/ferpa/index.html"
I feel pretty sure the teacher made a technological error and didn't intend to show the world. I'm certain she'll appreciate that you handled it the right way.
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Today I decided to google my name and see what came up. The first hit was a facebook profile, which was expected. On the first page, however, I noticed that my name was part of a file uploaded onto my college's FTP server. Curious, I click the link. Guess what I find?

This is my English professor's entire gradebook excel file. Every grade that every student has received is on this page, as well as the projected grade of each student. Hmmm... I wonder what else I can find. Yep, so the study guide for the final exam -- which wasn't supposed to be given to us for at least another week -- is on here. I'm not sure what to do here. People's grades are generally considered private information; I'm sure she wouldn't tell me my neighbor's grade in the class if I just asked. Should I say something to her? Should I pretend it never happened?
If you alert them of the situation, they will do one of two things: 1) Thank you very much for calling it to our attention, or 2) What? You broke into our computers! Here, meet this guy from the FBI!

If you bring it to their attention, I suggest you do it ANONYMOUSLY. I have read several stories in recent history of innocent people being charged with huge felonies at great expense for having the nerve to point out that the particular organization's IT staff are a bunch of idiots.
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Old 11-20-08, 08:41 PM   #22
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Well I got a very appreciative message from my professor. I guess this constitutes good karma.

A blowup in my face is exactly my concern, but I suspect this will be okay.
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Now you've got an answer for one of thoes stupid interview questions like "When did you have an opportunity to do the right thing"
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Hahaha, excellent.
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