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Old 11-23-08, 11:25 AM   #51
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Oil change joints rip shmucks off daily. They tried to get $280 out of my G/F the other day for her Civic, they claimed a light was out (it's not) they claimed the needed to "clean the fuel lines", they wanted to change the o2 sensor (it needs it, but it's a $90 piece, and i can do that too), they wanted to change her belts (they are fine), wanted to rotate the tires (they are new), blah blah blah. She called me and i said:

"No. Oil, Oil Filter, Air Filter, and leave"

Still cost her $60. I could have done it for $35. Learn how to do things yourself, save lots of money.
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Old 11-23-08, 12:29 PM   #52
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Oil change joints rip shmucks off daily. They tried to get $280 out of my G/F the other day for her Civic, they claimed a light was out BS (it's not) they claimed the needed to "clean the fuel lines" BS, they wanted to change the o2 sensor (it needs it, but it's a $90 piece, and i can do that too), they wanted to change her belts BS (they are fine), wanted to rotate the tires BS (they are new), blah blah blah. She called me and i said:

"No. Oil, Oil Filter, Air Filter, and leave"

Still cost her $60. I could have done it for $35. Learn how to do things yourself, save lots of money.
*******s. I wouldn't go back. One of those guys might slash a CV boot out of spite.

It sucks that the reason I don't get screwed into excessive "repairs" is the fact that I'm a guy.
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Old 11-23-08, 02:59 PM   #53
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One of the reasons that I take my quick lube business to Sears is that they don't try the upsell. I tell them I want the standard oil change and they happily go do it. They don't generate a spurious list of things that I should have done.
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Old 11-23-08, 03:14 PM   #54
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My old '86 4-Runner had the legendary 22R under the hood and aside from regular tune ups and oil changes the only thing that ever needed fixing was a bad top weld on the rad that cost me $90.00 and was then reimbursed for by Toyota as it was a recall issue.
The Toyotas with 22R motors have actually been appreciating in value simply because those motors were so bulletproof. The mid-80s AE86 Corollas have also been appreciating, they're going about double now what they used to be selling for 10-years ago.
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Old 11-23-08, 03:24 PM   #55
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The mid-80s AE86 Corollas have also been appreciating, they're going about double now what they used to be selling for 10-years ago.
That's due more to the growth of drifting than anything else. The AE86 was the main character's car in the Initial D manga and anime.

(my favorite anime, BTW)
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Old 11-23-08, 04:44 PM   #56
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One of the reasons that I take my quick lube business to Sears is that they don't try the upsell. I tell them I want the standard oil change and they happily go do it. They don't generate a spurious list of things that I should have done.
then they're not doing it right. i'm so glad i no longer work there (retired, who'da thunk it?).

whenever i talked to the district manager, regional manager or vp of automotive, they were always pushing the upsell.

i'm not saying it's a good or bad thing, it's just standard retail practice. Sears doesn't make much money on oil changes, but it was decided to bring the lube business back in order to gain more opportunities for add-on sales. oil service is a loss leader for Sears.
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Old 11-24-08, 07:04 AM   #57
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Go in and yell at them that they didn't replace the blinker fluid or muffler bearings and see what they do...
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Old 11-24-08, 08:42 AM   #58
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I have a good garage near me that I go for things I can't do myself. They never try to "upsell" ... in fact, they're more likely to "downsell" .... telling me that my brakes still have life in them and I can wait another 10,000 miles. And their oil changes are only $30 or so.
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Old 11-24-08, 11:43 PM   #59
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yeah.. i brought my car to a 10 minute oil change type place. They did their "14 point inspection" and came back with a piece of white paper with smeared oil on it. Claimed that there was "metal bits" and that they have a cleaning agent for it... that it would only cost me $50 for them to do it. I told them, "no thanks, but let me keep this piece of paper so I can show my mechanic so that he can tell me if you are full of ****". Mind you, i used profanity only after they attempted to charge me more for my "special" oil filter. They wanted to charge me extra because it was an audi. I then asked how much an oil filter was for a vw passat and he said it was standard price. Funny, cuz according to VW/Audi, they use the same filter. Those guys are bone heads. oh oh..then he tried to say that they are willing to waive the fee for having to remove the belly pan. WTF.. aren't you guys in the business of oil changes!! That is the biggest scam ever.
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Old 11-25-08, 01:22 AM   #60
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If there's metal bits in your oil, you do have a problem, and no cleaning agent is going to fix it. So:

1.) Don't trust the scammers pretending a detergent will fix metal abrasion.

2.) Definitely see a trustworthy mechanic about it.
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Old 11-25-08, 01:25 AM   #61
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You don't change the oil on a 2007 Mercedes by yourself. My guess is, there's a clause in the warranty that will void it if a dealer doesn't do it.
Nope.... it doesn't void it! I do oil changes on those cars and I am not a specific MB mechanic!
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Old 11-25-08, 06:15 AM   #62
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I found a good local lube center. NOT JIFFY LUBE. Sorry jiffy is full of mental midgets. But just look in your owners manual and have the right oil put in. Make sure the center you take your car to actually does all teh service checks so there is a record of it, just in case you have a system failure.
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Old 11-25-08, 06:37 AM   #63
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The Toyotas with 22R motors have actually been appreciating in value simply because those motors were so bulletproof. The mid-80s AE86 Corollas have also been appreciating, they're going about double now what they used to be selling for 10-years ago.
Not bad considering money is worth half of what it was 10 years ago. That, and $4 gas will drive up the price of anything that gets Corolla-like mileage. The engine has nothing to do with it.
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Old 11-25-08, 10:25 AM   #64
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Old 11-25-08, 02:57 PM   #65
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Yeah, the Toyota pickups from that era were feckin' bulletproof. Watch for them on the road. They're still everywhere. Beaten to death, most of them, but still going. Top Gear tried their hardest to destroy one, and they just couldn't do it. It's not surprising that the 4Runners do just as well. Quality workmanship and simplicity go a long way (literally).
From all accounts, my old 4Runner was a lemon. The four wheel drive system went twice (refused to hit low-range, and not lack of use, either) and it killed two CV joints. Then there was the electrical-Mom's 71 MG has less issues.
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