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Old 11-26-08, 01:41 PM   #1
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Piano vs keyboard. discuss!

In another thread I made a sarcastic, deriding comment about pianos and SonataInFSharp missed the humor behind it. So.... I thought I would start a thread about the relative merits of both instruments.

As an acoustic instrument player rather than an electric instrument player I thoght my comment about pianos being less than keyboards was apparant, boy did I miss.

Personally I donīt really like poor piano playing but I really love the piano played by a master. The notes are clear and distinct on a piano and a bad, poor, mediocre player just grates on me.

Keyboard, now it can be made to sound like most anything and can hide poor player skills, but it also can be made to sound great, just with less skill needed.

Fire away Gridley

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SonataInFSharp, did I do better here?

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Old 11-26-08, 01:48 PM   #2
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Is this a deathmatch? If not, I aint playin'.
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Had i the money, i'd buy both.

But if i had to choose one (and didn't have to worry about neighbors that may complain if i decided to play at 2:00AM), i'll take just the piano. I prefer the feel of the keys over all the electric keyboards/pianos that i've played.
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Old 11-26-08, 01:57 PM   #4
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No, no deathmatch, it is mostly to clear up my image regarding pianos. I made it sound like they are just pase and my humor was lost. The only instruments I really dislike are cymbols. They just torque my jaws something awful. Well maybe the accordian too.

Bach on track (slip) My wife plays the piano but our house only being heated with wood and only heated in the evenings was taking a beating. It never could stay in tune with the temperature changes and humidity changes. We finally gave it to one of my students that had a house that was kept at a constant temp.

So no, no death match here, mostly just a chance to see how others feel.

If you are British then humour would be fine also.

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why bother learning to play anyway? you can buy a keyboard that plays the music by touching a single button.

why bother pedaling a bike anyway? you can buy one where all you have to do is put some liquid in a little tank and never have to pedal again.
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Old 11-26-08, 01:59 PM   #6
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Haha, I teach the instrument, so I come in with a bias, even though I own both and use both, yada yada. I have had this conversation countless times in the past (but not here). We will see how I feel later...

Sorry I won't bite........
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Old 11-26-08, 02:00 PM   #7
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Wow, just wow. Or if you say it upside down, Mom, just mom.
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Had i the money, i'd buy both.

But if i had to choose one (and didn't have to worry about neighbors that may complain if i decided to play at 2:00AM), i'll take just the piano. I prefer the feel of the keys over all the electric keyboards/pianos that i've played.
I have a Yamaha YDP-223 digital piano, it's the best one I've ever tried with real key feel.

I'd rather have a real piano too but that is more difficult in a small apartment. This is as close as I can get.
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Piano. There is just something that sounds off when I hear a keyboard.
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I think you should just quit while you are ahead. As one who has made a living in music for 20 years now, I just don't want to bother with these kinds of attitudes and I can guarantee that there are others who feel that way.

People just don't like seeing their life's work and passions be marginalized, even if the evidence is that we professional musicians are a dying breed. It's just not nice to rub our faces in it, especially when you like music.

I'm not arguing the facts. Keyboards are apparently going to gradually replace pianos. By that time, I suppose trombonists will be extinct too. I only hope it happens after my lifetime. Sometimes progress is not progress at all, IMO.
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Grumpy, I have to agree, I play acoustic guitar and mandolin but I have had to bow to the electric dieties and play plugged in. I much rather play acousticly!

I've played since I was 12 and that makes it 42 years and I can't fall head over hills in love with the electric thing.

I have my preference on singing styles also, but that is a different thread. I was hoping to keep this thread light but looking at it with fresher eyes I can see that this is just to painful because we feel so strongly about what we do.

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Grumpy, I have to agree, I play acoustic guitar and mandolin but I have had to bow to the electric dieties and play plugged in. I much rather play acousticly!

I've played since I was 12 and that makes it 42 years and I can't fall head over hills in love with the electric thing.

I have my preference on singing styles also, but that is a different thread. I was hoping to keep this thread light but looking at it with fresher eyes I can see that this is just to painful because we feel so strongly about what we do.

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I don't care one bit, so without further ado....here's a bunny with a pancake on it's head.

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Uhhh, OK! Sounds good to me.
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I love eating bunnies, er, pancakes!

On the other hand, waffles > pancakes.
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Old 11-26-08, 04:10 PM   #15
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I generally prefer mechanical things to electric ones, so there's my opinion. Granted, I can't actually play either, so...
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I've played the piano for approx 35 years (amateurish at best), and have only played a Yamaha Digital Piano for maybe 10 minutes ... so it's not really a fair comparison. However the short time playing on the Yamaha was disappointing in it's feel. I currently have an upright piano with a cracked sound board. It sounds alright, however it no longer stays tuned for longer than a few months. I know I'll have to buy something new soon, hopefully another piano (Baby Grand would be great), but I won't rule out digital if they've improved.
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Piano's are either ecstasy or agony. A great player with a great piano is just magic but a poor player with a not so piano is just agony. A really BIG plus for electronic keyboards is that they stay in tune! Yes a cheap keyboard is pretty crappy but at least they voice cords properly. I think a top quality electronic piano is a fine instrument.

In a funny way I think its the fact that pianos don't voice cords properly is part of their sound.

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There is a little jealousy on my part. I have tried to play piano any number of times but I always find myself with tense arms and hands which results in a lot of pain. I know that relaxing and playing with out tension is the better way to play, just haven't managed it.

I miss having a piano in the house and have told my wife that I would get her an electric piano or a keyboard but she has lost interest and doesn't want one. I love to sit down with her playing while she and I sing duets, trading harmonies as we will. I diddn't realize just how much I miss that until I was writing this post.

I'm going to get her a keyboard and ask her after the fact. Another thing to be thankful for today.

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IMO, electric keyboards and synthesizers, although very cool, can't cover up for poor playing skills. And, don't always reproduce sounds as good as the real thing. I've been playing piano for over 40 years, have a Yamaha C3 Conservatory, and you can't reproduce that sound. "Nothing sounds like a grand."

If cost and space were a factor, I'd have a nice electric keyboard. But they're not, and I have a grand.
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Pipe organ is arguably my favorite.

As for keyboards, they are great general purpose instruments. However, the best samples don't come close to the real thing. If I'm doing piano, I'd say that a quality upright or grand can do more in sound than a keyboard ever could, even with aftertouch, reverb, and whatnot. However, its a lot easier to take a keyboard gigging, so its a tradeoff between the perfect sound of a piano versus close enough with a high quality keyboard.
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I generally prefer mechanical things to electric ones, so there's my opinion.
Me too, but I was wandering through Target of all places and saw a full 88 key Casio keyboard for just $400. It had keys that accurately simulated the feel of a real piano, which has always been one of my biggest complaints about keyboards, the sensitivity of the keys related to volume was great, and the sound was pretty good, too. If you can't afford or have space for a real piano (or want to have to move it), these are really pretty impressive. I'd say it's not more than half a step below the cheap upright I grew up with.

Of course, it still doesn't come close to a real grand piano. Those things sound amazing.
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