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    Audiophiles make cyclists look prudent

    These are the screws that hold the cartridge to the tone arm. For those not familiar with record players these are tiny 1cm long screws that could not possibly have any measurable effect on sound to 99.9% of people.


    They can be yours for the low low price of $199.



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    Quote Originally Posted by (BB) View Post
    These are the screws that hold the cartridge to the tone arm. For those not familiar with record players these are tiny 1cm long screws that could not possibly have any measurable effect on sound to 99.9% of people.


    They can be yours for the low low price of $199.



    http://www.elusivedisc.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SHECFS10
    want

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    I always liked this one. And a couple of these would be nice for the iPod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheg View Post
    I always liked this one. And a couple of these would be nice for the iPod.
    The iPod?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    The iPod?
    if you got it hooked up to one of these,
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    Ahh...audiophiles...the people in an endless search to make their music sound better than the live instruments themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipper View Post
    Ahh...audiophiles...the people in an endless search to make their music sound better than the live instruments themselves.
    No kidding. The amount of money that gets sunk into some of these setups would pay for a few lifetimes of concert tickets.

    The funny thing is, the deeper I got into music, the less I cared about audio electronics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (BB) View Post
    if you got it hooked up to one of these,
    huh... So, you want to spend a ton of cash to make a crappy digital file sound less crappy?

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    ^^^ iPods can play lossless files, too. Not HDCD or DVD-Audio quality, but bit-for-bit identical to a CD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    ^^^ iPods can play lossless files, too. Not HDCD or DVD-Audio quality, but bit-for-bit identical to a CD.

    CD sounds like crap too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    ^^^ iPods can play lossless files, too. Not HDCD or DVD-Audio quality, but bit-for-bit identical to a CD.
    I blech at digital... I use my iPod on the go, or my computer for background music, but when really listening to something, I would go analog all the way...if I could afford it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    I blech at digital... I use my iPod on the go, or my computer for background music, but when really listening to something, I would go analog all the way...if I could afford it.



    I just play live. It's not analog, it's the original source.



    I also have one of those six foot long furniture cabinet turntables with integrated speakers. The wood really makes it sound natural, it resonates like an instrument.


    I find high end audio to sound "cold". Too clean and neat. Real music is a little dirty.
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    I'll take CD over the squashed dynamic range, cross-channel blurring, and pitch variance of vinyl or tape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    huh... So, you want to spend a ton of cash to make a crappy digital file sound less crappy?
    No I'm mostly vinyl guy, I don't even own an ipod. I can go from vinyl to digital so I can burn a cd for the car, but other I prefer my tunes on 12" of vinyl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    squashed dynamic range, cross-channel blurring, and pitch variance of vinyl or tape.

    I'll take all of the above over the psycosis-inducing sound of a CD skipping or losing data.



    I still use CD 99.9% of the time, but analog does not have a squashed dynamic range unless you add compression to eliminate the noise floor. CD has artificial dynamics that the original instruments did not have, and that only dogs can hear.
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    To keep a CD from skipping, treat it like your favorite records. The kids these days who never handled vinyl rarely understand how important it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrackssi View Post

    the funny thing is, the deeper i got into music, the less i cared about audio electronics.

    +1

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    Live, unamplified music is by far the best, but not everyone plays that so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    To keep a CD from skipping, treat it like your favorite records. The kids these days who never handled vinyl rarely understand how important it is.


    Vinyl doesn't lose data progressively. CD's do. I don't care how well you handle them. They will lose data.
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    It's all about the preamp. Ever hear of UA? That's my dream preamp supplier.


    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post


    Live, unamplified music is by far the best, but not everyone plays that so....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipper View Post
    It's all about the preamp. Ever hear of UA? That's my dream preamp supplier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipper View Post
    Vinyl doesn't lose data progressively. CD's do. I don't care how well you handle them. They will lose data.
    Well, when mine do, will you let me know?

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    Audiophiles are idiots.

    But at least they won't get hit by a friggin bus. Their own families might murder them however.

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    I should make speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
    Audiophiles are idiots.

    But at least they won't get hit by a friggin bus. Their own families might murder them however.
    I know a dentist who got bit by the audio bug so bad he stopped showing up for work. He was so into the pursuit of audio perfection he was spending all his time at home listening, tinkering, and modifying or in stores demoing potential new gear. His practice closed. His wife left him. The whole nine yards.
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