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Old 12-20-08, 08:18 PM   #1
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F Itunes

Amazon mp3 downloads are where its at. My Ipod is gathering dust now. Just got a kick ass Nokia phone with built in mp3 player. Awesome little (and I mean tiny) phone.
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Old 12-20-08, 08:27 PM   #2
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I've been using Amazon MP3 for about two years now. I love it...no hassles, no coded crap, just pay download and start listening to your favorite stuff. I agree.... ITunes is overrated.
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FWIW, iTunes ≠ iTunes Music Store. Both iTunes and the iPod existed long before the Music Store.

The iPod is a pretty good product, even in spite of the bloat it has accrued over the years. iTunes was okay the last time I used it (4.7 or so). I've never had any interest in the iTMS, though. When I buy a CD, I can rip it in whatever format and at whatever bitrate I so choose, and physical CDs are usually cheaper than downloading a whole album, anyway.
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Old 12-20-08, 09:18 PM   #4
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Apple is shaking in its boots now boy.
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Old 12-20-08, 09:28 PM   #5
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they actually should be. they are actually just a simple consumer realization away from some serious business model headaches.
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Old 12-20-08, 09:35 PM   #6
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Argh... I thought this thread was about F1 songs.

Renault F1 singing

But if it's about iTunes, well, whatever...
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Old 12-20-08, 11:40 PM   #7
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I don't use itunes to buy music. you can't download it again if you lose it. Most of the time you can find the used cd cheap on amazon. but itunes is good for podcasts and renting movies and apps for the touch and iphone. You can import the amazon songs into itunes.
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Old 12-20-08, 11:51 PM   #8
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Supposedly if your computer crashes you can talk to customer service and they can allow you to re download the songs.... (allegedly).
I may need to take a peek at amazon. However, my ipod is going nowhere.
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nope they say you are responsible for backing them up. but backing them up is not a huge problem. myself I want music hat sounds better then mp3's.
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I never really used itunes for anything more than downloading music. I always hated that I could only play it on an ipod. Right now I have a bunch of music I can't play on my new phone. Thanks apple - appreciate ya. I found ways to convert the music but they're all somewhat messy. As far as quality, I always thought that a mp3 encoded at a high enough bit rate sounded pretty good - to me at least.
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Old 12-21-08, 11:19 AM   #11
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I never really used itunes for anything more than downloading music. I always hated that I could only play it on an ipod. Right now I have a bunch of music I can't play on my new phone. Thanks apple - appreciate ya. I found ways to convert the music but they're all somewhat messy. As far as quality, I always thought that a mp3 encoded at a high enough bit rate sounded pretty good - to me at least.
Fair enough, but iPods still command 75% of market share and the iTunes software/store experience makes that easier for most non-techies to use and enjoy. DRM is going away soon in my view, so that will stop being an issue in the near future. There will be increasing competition for the iTunes store as more smart phones from more manufacturers displace iPods over time, and people aren't tied to iPods to listen to digital music.

There are reasons iPods have a commanding market share and the iTunes store is the #1 retailer of music in the US, whether they work for you or not rv. There are alternatives. The market will decide, and that includes Ravenmore. Good points all the way around however.
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who uses iTunes or Amazon for mp3 downloads?
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Zune Marketplace for me. The Zune Pass is perfect for my style of listening to music. I'm always looking for something new, and I get sick of songs & stop listening to them eventually.
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who uses iTunes or Amazon for mp3 downloads?
Well, as someone who has a bunch of friends and family that are professional musicians, I'd rather pay or contribute for the music I like. $.99 per song is not a big deal and it puts money in the musician's pocket. (paying $20 for a cd that is mostly crap did suck - thank goodness those times are behind us). But yeah, pirating music because you're too cheap to pay less than a buck a song is really lame IMO.

Oh, and on a side note, if anyone can give Itunes a run for their money as the number one music retailer it would be Amazon.
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Zune Marketplace for me. The Zune Pass is perfect for my style of listening to music. I'm always looking for something new, and I get sick of songs & stop listening to them eventually.
I'll check that out too.
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I have a $25 gift card for iTunes. I think I'll ignore this thread and use it.
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I'll check that out too.
It's a flat monthly fee, I think 15 bucks. And that gives you access to EVERYTHING. Whatever you want to listen to. Sure you're only "renting" the music. But like I said in my case - I know I'll get sick of it anyway after a while.

I shiver when I think about how much money I'd spend at 99 cents a song.
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Old 12-21-08, 01:39 PM   #18
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I buy all my cds off ebay and rarely pay over $5 for one. I use itunes just for podcast and loading my cds on my ipod.
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But yeah, pirating music because you're too cheap to pay less than a buck a song is really lame IMO.
guess you've never heard of this?

http://www.archive.org/details/opensource_audio
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Old 12-23-08, 03:23 PM   #20
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actually I hadn't. That looks interesting and I'll check it out, but sometimes I do like listening to copyrighted music by artist I know and like.
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actually I hadn't. That looks interesting and I'll check it out, but sometimes I do like listening to copyrighted music by artist I know and like.
another good one:

http://librivox.org/
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$0.99 per download/$9.99 per album is ridiculous.
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$0.99 per download/$9.99 per album is ridiculous.
based on what?
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based on what?
It's unreasonable to expect someone to pay nearly the same price for compressed audio that they would pay for uncompressed audio in a physical format. It's not like the $0.99/song has to cover shipping and all the associated overhead of existing in a brick and mortar store.
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There are reasons iPods have a commanding market share and the iTunes store is the #1 retailer of music in the US, whether they work for you or not rv. There are alternatives. The market will decide, and that includes Ravenmore. Good points all the way around however.
I love this argument, it's a sign of accomplishment and good product when it's Apple, but when it's Microsoft, it's brainwashing and idiots, amirite?

Really I'm going for the later but in both circumstances.
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