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Old 12-22-08, 11:09 PM   #1
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Vehicles without tow-points

I just don't get it. Sure, I don't expect every vehicle out there to have bumper mounted hooks and shackles... but a vehicle that can't be strap rescued without causing front end damage? Who really thought that was a good idea?

(I just got back from giving a friend a bump, since there's no place to hook a rescue strap up to his car without doing damage to the front fairing.)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDjmylmXxew

anything like that?
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I was thinking about this exact clip when I read the post. Funny stuff.
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Bwahahaha!

We avoided that level of dumbassery because I know well enough to read a manual if I can't find a good tow point.

The owner's manual for his car very specifically states "DO NOT USE STRAP TOW DEVICES. SEVERE FRONT FLASHING DAMAGE WILL OCCUR." The only approved way to two his car is with a front wheel lift. (or a flatbed.)
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I was just about to be disappointed in that video when it paid off. Nice.
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pushing is really reliable, except you'll wish that you had a spare sleeping bag you could sacrifice.

it's just as good as 8 wheel turning.
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hilarious! with that little of snow, it would take less than 10 minutes to dig that thing out with a shovel... what a bunch of ****tards!

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there's no place to hook a rescue strap up to his car without doing damage to the front fairing.)
Sometimes you wonder if car companies go out of their way to **** things up, carefully plotting to inconvenience people when their garbage breaks down.
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I used to be Helpy Helperson and give friends a tow out of a ditch.

As I got older I realized just how much liability was involved, how easily someone could get hurt, how much damage could be done to a vehicle (especially one not set up to yank with a strap/probably shouldn't be in the snow anyway) and quit doing that. Now all I'll do is offer my cell to call a towtruck.
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Armed only with my trusty snow shovel, I helped four motorists get unstuck yesterday. We tried to dig the semi out of the parking lot, but didn't get too far with that (both of his chains snapped).

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what kind of car?

why couldn't you do it from the rear axle and tow it backwards? from the K-member up front, if not that TWO cables attached to each A-Arm up front. the front bumper support, etc. there are PLENTY of tow points on 99.9999% of vehicles.

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OMG! That's hilarious.
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what kind of car?

why couldn't you do it from the rear axle and tow it backwards? from the K-member up front, if not that TWO cables attached to each A-Arm up front. the front bumper support, etc. there are PLENTY of tow points on 99.9999% of vehicles.

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Some kind of Chrysler minivan; and the problem with trying to hook up a tow strap is all the plastic along the bottom edge of that car. No "official" tow points to hook to, and if I went for an axle or a bumper support, the strap would rip right through the bumper when it went taut. So much decorative plastic on that car. When the flashing all hangs below the frame by 3 or 4 inches, there's not much you can do to tow it without breaking something.
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In that video of those idiots trying to tow, was there some kid using a bike pump on the front tire in the beginning? Will that even work or just take forever?

I was going to say won't the weight of the car keep you from reaching any useful pressure, but then I remember that schraeders have that spring type thingey in them and would probably work if the pump head has a good seal.
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I was going to say won't the weight of the car keep you from reaching any useful pressure, but then I remember that schraeders have that check valve in them and would probably work if the pump head has a good seal.
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My honda has tow loops but they're under all the plastic bumper crap, meaning if I ever need them the strap is going to compress the bumper covers and damage clearcoat and paint anyway.

Now the jeep on the other hand....
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My honda has tow loops but they're under all the plastic bumper crap, meaning if I ever need them the strap is going to compress the bumper covers and damage clearcoat and paint anyway.
I'd like to think that automobile design engineers are smarter than that, but your description has proven otherwise. Why not put the cup holders in the trunk and the radio dials on the rear dash-deck while they're at it? It'd be just as useful.

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Now the jeep on the other hand....
I drive a 2000 XJ, and I'm amazed at how many people are getting stuck, driving what appear to be capable vehicles for the snow. There's someone in our parking lot right now, with a Ford Escape buried axle deep in the slushy mush, just a-spinnin' her wheels because she cheaped out and didn't buy the 4wd model.
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I drive a 2000 XJ, and I'm amazed at how many people are getting stuck, driving what appear to be capable vehicles for the snow. There's someone in our parking lot right now, with a Ford Escape buried axle deep in the slushy mush, just a-spinnin' her wheels because she cheaped out and didn't buy the 4wd model.
My intelligent AWD 2006 Escape has been a trooper in all this snow. I go up to the mountains a lot for snowshoeing and XC skiing, so I have winter driving experience. My AWD has not even activated during this snow storm in Seattle.
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I like the new Mazda cars' tow points. There is a small circle on the front bumper, which pops out to reveal a large, threaded hole. Among the spare tire tools is a large stud with a tow loop on the end, that threads into the hole. Puts the tow point way out in front.
As for the mfg process, how much could it really cost to make that addition? That's a great design.
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My primary vehicle does not have tow points, but they are not needed. None of you should ever need them. All you do is hit B on your steering wheel hub to deploy the super grip belt tires. Geez.

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I like the new Mazda cars' tow points. There is a small circle on the front bumper, which pops out to reveal a large, threaded hole. Among the spare tire tools is a large stud with a tow loop on the end, that threads into the hole. Puts the tow point way out in front.
BMW's have had that for years, its a great feature that every car should have.
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this story always brings me down to tears and rolling on the floor laughing.
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