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Old 12-24-08, 03:29 PM   #1
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photoshop quick selection tool

is there anyway to get this thing to retreat? it keeps selecting this one little area that i don't want it to select and there appears to be no way to reshape the selection to not include that little area.

so, how do i drag that part of the selection back?
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is there anyway to get this thing to retreat? it keeps selecting this one little area that i don't want it to select and there appears to be no way to reshape the selection to not include that little area.

so, how do i drag that part of the selection back?
Do you mean the magic wand tool?

I may be a little out of date because I'm still using Photoshop CS (1) but my FAVORITE selection tool is Quick Mask. On CS you will find it just under the 2 alternating colour patches on the side bar. Basically if you have selected most of what you want then OK the selection and then go to Quick Mask. This will turn the selection into a mask that you can see with a translucent red colour. Then its simple. You use a paintbrush or airbrush to paint the mask on or off. You use the alternating black/white patches above to toggle it on or off. Once your done save the mask as a Layer mask.

Easy. See the instructions for further information. This really is the easiest way to get accurate masks quickly.

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the quick select tool is a tool that automatically selects sections for you. it's associated with the magic wand too. you can alter the computer's selection to get things just right.

i'll try your idea though.

and how do you adjust the brush size of these tools?
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the quick select tool is a tool that automatically selects sections for you. it's associated with the magic wand too. you can alter the computer's selection to get things just right.

i'll try your idea though.

and how do you adjust the brush size of these tools?
Well first you enter Quick Mask mode and then you select either paint brush or air brush and select brush properties as per normal. There is a limit to what the automatic selection tools can do for you. They work or they don't and generally I will do the best I can that way and then clean it up with Quick Mask.

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Ohh, and in an attempt to answer your first question, when I use Magic Wand with CS (1) on a Mac I hold down the control button after I've made the first selection and click with the magic wand again and I will get a menu asking If I want to add or subract from the selection. You can do this a few times but honestly, its usually quicker to use the Quick Mask mode.

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i found that quick mask thing. it's a lot like the automatic select too except the AST will contour around jagged edges and what not.
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I like using quick mask a lot when I was dealing with large files (18MB) for printing. You start by painting it on roughly and quickly and then you clean it up with smaller and smaller brushes. With large files for printing you can get right down to the details. You save the mask as a channel for later use or refining.

Its probably a bit cumbersome for small files but if an automatic selection tool is frustrating you its good to switch to this mode, clean it up by hand with a small brush, save it and then keep on with your work. You can make brushes as small or large or hard or soft as you want/need.

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i'm just gonna post what i was doing because i'm confused and i'm not sure you know what i'm talking about


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i'm just gonna post what i was doing because i'm confused and i'm not sure you know what i'm talking about


here's the before

http://METREONFUTURE.deviantart.com/...*-it-104982595


here's the after
http://METREONFUTURE.deviantart.com/...rted-107337115


type the f word in lower case in place of the **** to see the page
Yes that can be a tricky job to do but there is a way to make it easier. Go to the Select menu and go to Color Range. Use the Sampled colors option and play around with the fuzziness until you get it close. Once this is selected I then go to Quick Mask mode to clean it up, I save the mask as a channel and then you switch back to regular mode to adjust. If you need to adjust the mask you can open then channel, convert it to a selection and adjust.

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and how do you turn off the quick selection tool after you've selected something?
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and how do you turn off the quick selection tool after you've selected something?
The quick answer is to go to the Select menu and choose Deselect. I think the shortcut is Ctrl D.

The idea is you select something. Then adjust it with a different tool or function and then deselect. The trick however is, will you want to adjust exactly the same selection again in the future? Good luck getting the auto tool to select exactly the same thing twice. This is where its handy/sensible to convert the selection to a quick mask and then save the mask as a channel. Later on when you want to use it again you go to the channel and convert it back to a selection.

Working is a systematic way with layers and channels is an important and valuable step.

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Another way to fine-tune the behavior of the magic-wand tool is to set the tolerance range. It starts out a 32 and if you want to select a closer-range of colors, lower that number. If you want to expand the range, pick a larger number. But this tool is too clumsy. As others mentioned, quick-mask is a more precise method to make selections. You can also use the lasso tool to encircle precisely the area you want. Hold the ALT key down (Option on Mac) to pick a series of straight lines that wrap around the selection you want to make.

If you save the selection as a channel, you can go back to that as a starting point. Or you can find-tune that selection by editing the channel.
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