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    Free firewall/virus protection?

    I haven't been on the last couple of days because my hard drive has been ill. The 'puter is now up and running again, but I lost everything. I used to use Zone Alarm and AVG and they worked fine, but for some reason I can't get eather to install on my system now. Anyone have good experience with anything else? Thanks in advance.

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    Avast.
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    I successfully installed avast. It appears to scan constantly instead of at a scheduled time like AVG, will this slow my system down much? It seems to be slightly slower but I'm not positive.

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    It doesn't slow my system down, but I have a pretty high-end computer, but on my dad's computer (very low end) it runs just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hickeydog View Post
    It doesn't slow my system down, but I have a pretty high-end computer, but on my dad's computer (very low end) it runs just fine.
    Well after a few more minutes, I don't think it's slowing my system down much at all, if any. So far so good, and thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamplight View Post
    I successfully installed avast. It appears to scan constantly instead of at a scheduled time like AVG, will this slow my system down much? It seems to be slightly slower but I'm not positive.
    It scans constantly. Any good scanner will (must) scan every file that is opened, when it is opened.
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    Avast + Windows firewall + Spybots resident scanner (notifies of all registry changes and gives you options to allow change). And make sure you log in with a password, not just start up and go.
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    A good scanner scans stuff in memory, and periodically hits the disk to check resident files to make sure nothing got by it while it was offline.

    I'd also say Avast's. I use their licensed version on a U3 USB flash drive, and I have no complaints about it.

    Spybot's resident scanner is OK, but its fairly old and most malware can easily bypass it.

    What OS are you running? If you are running Vista or Windows Server 2008, Microsoft's firewall is very good. XP, I'd use some third party tool, such as Sunbelt's Personal Firewall (which has both a free and paid for mode), Comodo's software offerings are pretty decent as well.

    Finally, don't forget to consider physical security of the machine. If its a laptop, I highly recommend downloading TrueCrypt and using that to encrypt the drive of the machine. This ensures that if someone steals the laptop, its "just" a hardware theft, rather than a hardware theft, plus possible ways for extortion/blackmail.

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    Install the avg before you install the zone alarm. Or, if you already have ZA installed, disalbe it when you try to install avg.

    They'll work together just fine. Except when you try to install, or uninstall, avg, you have to disable ZA. There is some type of conflict.
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    I am a computer moran - but could this have anything to do with the service pack Lampy is running?

    we have AVG at work, no problems though we have pretty good spam filters. We're always getting warnings from IT about emails but I get very little junk. I've had jobs in the past that were unreal....
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    Service packs are a different story. The best thing is to make a CD or DVD of the service pack before a freshly installed machine ever touches the Internet.

    The reason for this is that XP, until service pack 2, didn't turn on its firewall by default. Without it, a box would get infected due to network attacks in 5 min or less on average.

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    BTW, I'm running Windows 2000Pro with Service Pack 3. I wanted to use AVG and Zone Alarm again but I couldn't install either for some reason.

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    You could probably find some older versions of the software online somewhere. And *most* things that can install in XP can install in 2000.
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    Okay, Avast just didn't cut it. Since I've installed it I've had all kinds of adware and many other malfunctions of my computer. I can remove adware with Ad-Aware, but I have been doing that every day and coming up with well over 100 infections each time. I want to use AVG, but the latest version doesn't support Windows 2000, which I have. I can use the slightly older version, but I have to download Service Pack 4, which simply will not load when I try to get it from Microsoft or other sites. So suddenly I apparently have to have Windows XP (which I don't mind but can't get right now) or Vista (which I loath), because it seems nothing is working right with Windows 2000 anymore. I can't use AVG, ZoneAlarm, or Spybot, all things which always worked fine before but now I suddenly can't download any of them. This is almost not worth the trouble.

    Edit: I managed to get AVG working again. It immediately found 13 threats of various sorts. So far so good.
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    Avast isn't the best at Adware/Malware. It is awesome for viruses.

    You should do a complete scan with Malwarebytes. Ad-Aware does not detect all Adware/Malware - and that is by design. In fact, Ad-Aware sucks pretty hardcore. Malwarebytes gets all of it, provided you do a complete scan in safe mode.

    If that still doesn't get all of it, CCleaner will. CCleaner is a bit more involved as it requires installation of the recovery console (free d/l from Microsoft), but it works very well.
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    This is just IMHO, but I'd consider ditching Windows 2000 completely. Its a good OS, but support of it is dropping each day. Even though XP just has some minor changes from W2000, a lot of vendors will be supporting it for a number of years.

    The worst thing about XP is the activation, but there are always ways around that, such as a VLK license.

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    why am i paying for mcafee anti-virus/firwall? is the free stuff just as safe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamplight View Post
    I successfully installed avast. It appears to scan constantly instead of at a scheduled time like AVG, will this slow my system down much? It seems to be slightly slower but I'm not positive.
    I have Avast on an OLD machine. A 1GHz pentium jacked up from 350 MHz. Works fine.
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    Well this morning IE wouldn't load properly at all. It seemed to load but the window would just be white and it would do that with every site I tried. A couple of ads even popped up and they did the same thing: blank white window. The computer seemed to be normal in every other way, though I didn't have time to investigate much. Everything that gets mentioned, someone will claim this software is the best, and another will say the exact same program is the worst one, so I'm not sure what to think. I do know that when I was using AVG, Zone Alarm, and Spybot, I very, very rarely had any problems. Now it seems like nothing works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlts22 View Post
    This is just IMHO, but I'd consider ditching Windows 2000 completely. Its a good OS, but support of it is dropping each day. Even though XP just has some minor changes from W2000, a lot of vendors will be supporting it for a number of years.

    The worst thing about XP is the activation, but there are always ways around that, such as a VLK license.
    I wouldn't mind having XP, but I can't hardly afford to buy it and I wouldn't be comfortable "obtaining" it another way.

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    comodo+avg+spybot s&d+windows defender+privoxy=win
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    Quote Originally Posted by coasting View Post
    why am i paying for mcafee anti-virus/firwall? is the free stuff just as safe?
    Yeah. Ditch mcafee. That's one of the worst viruses/malware ever created. Ditch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamplight View Post
    Well this morning IE wouldn't load properly at all..
    Problem right there.
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