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    Hard Day's Night - Opening Chord

    The famous opening chord to the Beatles' A Hard Day's Night

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YROx5WDaWno

    Ever tried to recreate that chord? I have...and so have a lot of people. Simply copying sheet music or guitar tablatures gets you close, but something always seems to be missing.

    Four years ago, inspired by reading news coverage about the songís 40th anniversary, Jason Brown of Dalhousieís Department of Mathematics decided to try and see if he could apply a mathematical calculation known as Fourier transform to solve the Beatlesí riddle. The process allowed him to decompose the sound into its original frequencies using computer software and parse out which notes were on the record.

    http://www.scientificblogging.com/ne...rier_transform

    What he found was interesting: the frequencies he found didnít match theinstruments on the song. George played a 12-string Rickenbacker, John Lennon played his 6 string, Paul had his bass - none of them quite fit what he found. He then realized what was missing - the 5th Beatle. George Martin was also on the record, playing a piano in the opening chord, which accounted for the problematic frequencies.

    So, anyway, here it is: George Harrison was playing the following notes on his 12 string guitar: a2, a3, d3, d4, g3, g4, c4, and another c4; Paul McCartney played a d3 on his bass; producer George Martin was playing d3, f3, d5, g5, and e6 on the piano, while Lennon played a loud c5 on his six-string guitar.
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    I may be way off base here but, at some point, couldn't someone have just asked the Beatles?

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    suspended 9 chord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boresville View Post
    I may be way off base here but, at some point, couldn't someone have just asked the Beatles?
    The Beatles did not produce the record.
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    Every time my guitar falls over and makes its own "chord", I can't help but sing the opening line to the song. I always figured something similar was to account for the actual recording.

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    The mystery was actually solved--either by NPR or the BBC...I want to say that it involved slowing/speeding up the tape speed, but I'm not 100% certain. I do remember that it is almost impossible to reproduce live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boresville View Post
    I may be way off base here but, at some point, couldn't someone have just asked the Beatles?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3kNl...eature=related

    in all the time this took, tho, i'd rather just have listened to the record
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    The killers use it for the opening chord on one of their songs. I think.

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    Nice use of a Fourier transform....that thing never ceases to amaze me. It proves useful in soooooo many things it's just not funny anymore.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boresville View Post
    I may be way off base here but, at some point, couldn't someone have just asked the Beatles?
    Whether they could have or not, that's not the point. The point is is that you can use an algorithm to solve the question...to extract knowledge where there was only information.

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    The NPR story about this indicated that the surviving beatles disagree about how it was made. j
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    these theories seem to discount overdubbing, which the Beatles were known to use on occasion.
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    I blame Yoko for this one too.
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    So how 'bout the closing piano chord on "Day in the Life"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Merkel View Post
    So how 'bout the closing piano chord on "Day in the Life"?
    ahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    I blame Yoko for this one too.
    Every one blames poor Yoko She was/is who she is, the breakup would have happened no matter what. NOW, everyone knows that chord was made when someone dropped their guitar
    You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve

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    I need you by George Harrison
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