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    Attn: rare book collectors

    This might be a long shot on here, but a friend and I were each given a rare book by a collector/acquaintance some time ago and we are looking to sell them because we don't really now what to do with them and/or how to take care of them, plus as college students we could always use the money.

    Google and eBay have yielded no results and it doesn't help that I cannot read Latin (I think....). Any help with figuring out what they are and approximate values would be appreciated, but please refrain from making offers via PM or otherwise as I am not the one selling them and at best I can only pass along the offer.

    From what I recall from the person that gave it to us, it is 1700s literature. On the binding of both are Lucanus Oudendorph (or II) Tom : I (and II, respectively). They are both about 500 pages long and measure about 8.5" x 10.5" x 2.5".


    Ok, nevermind, I actually opened the books and recognized what they are:

    Pharsalia by Lucan, dated 1728 ("Lugduni Batavorum, Apud Samuelem Luchtmans, 1728"). I think it is volumes 1 and 2 of the ten books that are still around. I'm guessing Franciso Oudendorpio was the person who transcribed it at that date.

    How do I recognize fair value for such works? I don't suppose book collectors can tell value by just looking.

    Also, some care tips would be helpful - I'd hate to think of books older than the U.S. getting fudged up by me.

    I suppose I could also take it to the Classics department at my school...

    Thanks.
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    ^ Then I might as well give them to my Classic department.
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    Find the local Antique Roadshow?

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    Pics of the cover, flypage, and binding please.


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    sounds very interesting. I love old books!
    I'd try taking them around to a few antique shops and used book stores and see if you can start collecting some information.

    Also, antiques roadshow is a good idea, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psydotek View Post
    Find the local Antique Roadshow?
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    Old books are awesome, and they get even awesomer as they get older. I'm glad I don't have many, since I'm sure it'd be like bikes: n + 1.

    Seconding the cries of "pics or it didn't happen".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipper View Post
    Pics of the cover, flypage, and binding please.


    I may be able to help.
    My digi camera is in Gainesville - I will post up pics this weekend.
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    Actually, I borrowed a digi cam from my cousins. It is not the best quality, but there are at least pictures.

    4 or 5 of the fifteen pics are smaller as I got tired of waiting for DSL to upload at 4.1 megapixels.
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    Amazing. It looks to be in very good condition, especially considering its age. I think the writing inside the cover even adds to its value, at least to me. It's a sign that it was used and handled by a person as much as almost three hundred years ago. My only lament is that it's probably worth far more than I'd be willing to pay for it, considering the only reason I'd want it is because it's totally cool.

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    Some of the writing on the inside cover seem to look be a cataloging thing. I should have delineated which book was which, but the one with more writing is Vol. 1. The one with the color on the fly page and the one with the dedication (Dedicatio?) is also Vol 1. I should go back and label them....

    The previous owner (as I recall - this was 2-3 years ago) mentioned that he had this relatively longer than his other thousand books (he literally had 900+, inclusive of those rare single pages) and that he oiled it until oiling old books was going out of favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by x136 View Post
    My only lament is that it's probably worth far more than I'd be willing to pay for it, considering the only reason I'd want it is because it's totally cool.
    The reason I am asking is because I figured the niche for such items is small enough that the chances to get ripped off on eBay or something would be higher if I decide to sell mine (forgot which one was mine - hope it doesn't matter) unlike my Sora shifters.

    Plus, I have no idea how to ship such things as just tossing them into a book seem to be a little careless to me.
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    Contact Bauman rare books in New York. They have an amazing selection of old and important books (some of them well into six figures) and they would definitely know the value and the market for these books. I had what appeared to be a first edition Hemingway and took it to them for an appraisal. It actually turned out to be a first book club edition, so it wasn't worth what a genuine first would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z415 View Post
    Actually, I borrowed a digi cam from my cousins. It is not the best quality, but there are at least pictures.

    4 or 5 of the fifteen pics are smaller as I got tired of waiting for DSL to upload at 4.1 megapixels.



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    I am Mr. Gamgee, not Frodo.

    And it says Lucan, not Lovecraft.

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    Sotheby's?
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    ^ Isn't that more art and less literature? Even so, Sotheby's > eBay.

    Anyone have general care tips? I'm not 100% on selling mine and I want to explore my options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by z415 View Post
    ^ Isn't that more art and less literature? Even so, Sotheby's > eBay.

    Anyone have general care tips? I'm not 100% on selling mine and I want to explore my options.


    Get a mylar wrap and store it someplace dry and dark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipper View Post
    Get a mylar wrap and store it someplace dry and dark.
    Yes.

    I helped my mother dispose of my brother's collection. You need to find the specialist who deals in this particular type of book.

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    is there any mildew or mold now?

    handle carefully of course. and a cradle is great for opening it...you can rig a temporary one -

    besides mylar you can also make a phase box out of acid free buffered board - pm if you want details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgoat View Post
    is there any mildew or mold now?

    handle carefully of course. and a cradle is great for opening it...you can rig a temporary one -

    besides mylar you can also make a phase box out of acid free buffered board - pm if you want details.
    I don't see or smell any mildew or mold, but my ability to figure that out on books is novice-like at best. Good with bread and bathroom tile, though.

    I've been opening it by putting it binding down in some smaller boxes from when I order bike stuff to kind of act as a book cradle. I hope Competitivecyclist.com cardboard is acid free.

    I am familiar with the idea of a phase box, pretty much a snug box. Question is where can I get acid free corrugated paperboard. Wal-mart?
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    Quote Originally Posted by z415 View Post
    Question is where can I get acid free corrugated paperboard. Wal-mart?

    Comic book shops & book binders. Online is best and cheapest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipper View Post
    Comic book shops & book binders. Online is best and cheapest.


    Happy New Year.
    correctamundo. The archival websites tend to be pricey so poke around.

    here is a neat tutorial on making a box. Mine tend to be sloppy and less elaborate....I just use a pencil and a ruler.
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    I coach a guy who owns a rare bookshop.

    http://www.lokmanbooks.com/

    Maybe Lorence can help with a valuation or perhaps he might want to buy them.

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