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    Japanese Internet vs. North American Internet


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    Is this some kind of ad? Clicking for 'the answer' takes me to amazon.

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    Seems a lot like spam

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    it's not entirely true.

    the japanese ISPs have methods of hooking up the entire condo or town house with fiber optics and having the entire building share the costs.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
    http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm

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    lim. x->ChineseInternet Speed(x)=0

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    Quit your whining - come and enjoy third world country interweb.

    http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ta...ncl=1291046898

    45% of advertised speed (Truth in advertising, eh?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbcb View Post
    lim. x->ChineseInternet Speed(x)=0
    Given the "Glorious People's War against the Evil Internet" I'm suprised you still have any access. Hope it gets better.
    Last edited by markhr; 01-12-09 at 08:13 AM. Reason: my english ability (lack there of)
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    Well, I actually need a VPN to get to BikeForums from home... At work, no VPN needed. They love keeping you guessing

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    our canadian ISPs suck really bad. Rogers high speed and Bell Sympatico both are decently fast with up to 1000kbytes/s DL, but it's $60/mo for that and a monthly limit of 60~95GB/mo limit with extra charges if you exceed it.

    I, however, have a 300kbytes/s no monthly limit ISP called Acanac.

    trade off of speed or no monthly limit... sucks.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Well, at least you're still here and posting - may it long remain that way.
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    I hope so, too.

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    Japan is not china, and is not 3rd worldish either. just saying.

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    Shill to sell a book?
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    Ski, bike and wish I was gay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RubenX View Post
    Japan is not china, and is not 3rd worldish either. just saying.
    Who said it was? I was referring to my own experience, and markhr to his.

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    I thought this said, "Internment". Never mind.

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    I agree with the picture, but it just takes someone to an Amazon page. I'll add some additional things, more US specific.

    US ISPs, instead of expanding bandwidth/reducing latency, are starting to charge subscribers by the byte. They are also looking into how UK ISPs use Phorm, NebuAd, and other highly intrusive ad servers to inject ads. This is why some subscribers complain to sites about having ads on them, even with a sub fee -- the ads are not from the actual Web site, but placed by the ISP to earn cash.

    Want wireless Internet access in the US? You are even worse off. Most will give you 2-3 gigs a month and throttle, or start charging hefty fees.

    In the past 3 years, the US has gone from one of the most well-connected countries to one of the worst, with Europe and Asia passing by, bandwidth wise.

    Especially Japan. For Americans who want a high end cellphone, this is as good as you are going to get without importing one. Compare that to a middle of the line Japanese cellphone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    it's not entirely true.

    the japanese ISPs have methods of hooking up the entire condo or town house with fiber optics and having the entire building share the costs.
    There's nothing novel about routers. It does, however, mean that an entire building is locked into the same service provider, which is good from a cost standpoint, but not as good for competitiveness.

    The real advantage is the high population density. It's 31/km^2 in the US versus 337/km^2 in Japan. That makes the per person cost of running new cable much lower.
    "The internet is a place where absolutely nothing happens. You need to take advantage of that." ~ Strong Bad

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