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    was kung-fu fighting lodi781's Avatar
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    any backpacker out there..I need...

    Help with an internal frame pack. I was looking at a kelty, then was paroozaling some backpacking forums and they all say 6+ pounds for a pack is to heavy. I tried a bunch on at EMS, and the kelties were the most comfortable. any suggestions???
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    How's EMS' return policy? If it's anything like REI's, buy what you like, and give it a good, solid try.

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    Check out Osprey packs.

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    was kung-fu fighting lodi781's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by x136 View Post
    How's EMS' return policy? If it's anything like REI's, buy what you like, and give it a good, solid try.
    There really good, plus there are two stores real close to me, so that makes it even better....
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    What are you willing to spend. Osprey packs are Cadillacs. Dana Design and Gregory make really good packs. Also, what are you planning on doing with it (besides the obvious "backpackin"). How many days, what do you take, things like that. I have a great Dana pack that is huge and could hold everything. I stripped my backpacking necessities down and I now use a pack that weighs a little over 2 pounds.

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    My big pack is a Mountain Designs one but my daypack is an Aarn and I it. When my full size dies I will get one of the bigger Aarn packs. One of the neat things about an Aarn is that the main compartment has a removable dry-bag.

    The most important thing about a pack is not how much does it weigh but whether it has the features you want and need and fits comfortably on you when it is loaded.

    Remember when you are testing a pack out to get them to put a decent amount of weight in it, such as a climbing rope or two, or some bags of sand.
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    those Aarn packs are really cool. I love there return policy when your done with the pack so they can recycle it. I really like that. I might have to check a little further into those.....
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    Get a pack that fits you and doesn't cause a great deal of discomfort. I can deal with a few extra pounds if the pack fits right, if it doesn't fit right, nothing is going to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    Osprey and Gregory packs are excellent. Dana Design went under years ago, were bought up by K2 and were recently resurrected by Marmot.
    Fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidlyBrave View Post
    Fixed.
    I've been out of the loop for a while.

    I got away from carrying a heavy pack about 5 years ago. My last major trip was 6 days for 55 miles through the Rockys carrying no more than 30 pounds. That was nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lodi781 View Post
    Help with an internal frame pack. I was looking at a kelty, then was paroozaling some backpacking forums and they all say 6+ pounds for a pack is to heavy. I tried a bunch on at EMS, and the kelties were the most comfortable. any suggestions???
    I bought a Gregory Baltero late last year and have yet to try it. The Osprey Aether was also on my short list, but I liked the Gregory better. It was also Backpacker's overall winner in the 2008 gear review.

    I really wanted to like the Osprey because the local outdoor store carries it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    I've been out of the loop for a while.

    I got away from carrying a heavy pack about 5 years ago. My last major trip was 6 days for 55 miles through the Rockys carrying no more than 30 pounds. That was nice.
    Good gear allows that

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    Ultimately, try on as many packs as you can. Like SB said, sometimes what one person recommends may not work for your back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StupidlyBrave View Post
    Good gear allows that
    Not having a tent really helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    Not having a tent really helps.
    tarp? or open sky?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    tarp? or open sky?
    tarp and open sky. I was sold on the tarp when i set it up one night and got to watch the low clouds slowly roll in. Being locked in a tent, you miss out on so much of what makes backpacking great. There is an art to setting it up, though.

    Open sky if the weather is looking great. There is nothing like the stars at 10,000 ft.

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    Tarps work fine when you are at altitude and don't have to deal with too many bloodsuckers. When you are in skeeter country, zippered screens are a must.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engyo View Post
    UA -

    Tarps work fine when you are at altitude and don't have to deal with too many bloodsuckers. When you are in skeeter country, zippered screens are a must.
    Not too hard to tack a little netting onto your tarp and still have a very light "tent".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engyo View Post
    UA -

    Tarps work fine when you are at altitude and don't have to deal with too many bloodsuckers. When you are in skeeter country, zippered screens are a must.
    Ah Colorado...

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    My Kelty external is nice. Have a couple of other packs, one from RSA & one from UK...good solid shizz.

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    Yeah, had the same experience here with a 6 lb. Arcteryx Bora 80. That didn't cut it doing 2 day trips here in Texas and surrounding areas. I did, however, like to carry a lot of stuff I didn't really need. I sold it and bought a Golite Odyssey pack at about half the weight. I ended up carrying it all over Europe in October and loved it. I would highly recommend the pack, but Gregory and Osprey packs are great too, I've heard.

    http://www.golite.com/Product/prodde...x?p=PA5260&s=1

    You can find it for about half the price of the Arcteryx too.

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    The best back packs I have ever seen, bar none, are made by Badlands and Vortex of Salt Lake City Utah. Lifetime for whoever happens to own it warranty, so if it's changed hands 10 times it doesn't matter. Serious comfort, serious durability, and seriously well designed for carrying stuff. I've had mine for 9 years now.
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    I have been looking for an older Dana Design (pre-marmot). Also I have been eying this Mountainsmith
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    I cannot recommend a pack as I have been using the same one for 30 years now. I have a Jansport Dalghouri 3 ( D3 ). It is an external frame pack and it was, and as far as I am concerned still is, a non-pareil pack. I bought it at Paragon on 18th Street in Manhattan. I believe I paid 179 dollars for it. I have not regreted buying it for a second!!!!
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