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Old 01-27-09, 11:50 AM   #1
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New (bike) wheels for Arti!

Ok FOO, here is your chance to help me make a very important decision! No unreasonable input refused!
I suppose I could post in the MTB forum, but you peeps rock so much I wanted to know what you think.

I have this bike on a paid hold until the weather clears up here to take for a test ride.
What I'm looking for: Never mountain biked. Just want something to get me started for a season or two, since I don't want to drop the big bux right now. Its on a closeout for $469.99.
Concerns I have: No lock-out on rear suspension. In fact, I'm not even sure I need rear suspension (and could probably get more bike for my $ in something front-suspension) but am considering it a pretty good deal for something to beat around on.
  • 3" travel rear suspension to suit lighter XC/Trail riders, with easily adjustable air shock
  • Air-sprung suspension fork with lockout sets up easily for balanced performance
  • Disc brakes for better braking control, a smaller rear rotor keeps weight down
  • K2 Fit System stem easily adjusts handlebar height to the rider's size and preference
  • FRAME - 3" TRAVEL FULL SUSPENSION, 6061 AL, T:NINE SPECIFIC TUBING, FOR DISC BRAKES, WITH SMOOTH WELDING
  • REAR SHOCK - SPINNER SUS-R, AIR SPRING & REBOUND ADJUST
  • FORK - SPINNER POINT 254, 80mm TRAVEL, AIR SPRING & REBOUND ADJUST, WITH LOCKOUT, AL STEERER
  • FRONT DERAILLEUR - SHIMANO ALTUS
  • REAR DERAILLEUR - SHIMANO ALIVIO
  • SHIFTERS - SHIMANO MC40 RAPIDFIRE PLUS
  • FREE WHEEL CASSETTE - SHIMANO HG40 8 SPEED CASSETTE, 11-32T
  • CRANKSET - SHIMANO FC-M311
  • BOTTOM BRACKET - SEALED CARTRIDGE
  • CHAIN - KMC Z7 WITH REUSABLE LINK
  • RIM - ALEX ACE 17 DOUBLE-WALL
  • TIRES - KENDA KOMODO, 26 X 1.95"
  • BRAKES - TEKTRO MECHANICAL DISC BRAKES, 160/140mm ROTORS
  • BRAKE LEVERS - TEKTRO ALLOY, WOMEN SPECIFIC SHORT-REACH
  • HEADSET - 1 1/8" THREADLESS, INTEGRATED
  • STEM - K2 BIKE FIT SYSTEM BY NVO, MELT-FORGED AL
  • HANDLEBAR - T:NINE TUNED ALUMINUM FLAT BAR
  • GRIPS - T:NINE MOUNTAIN DESIGN, DUAL-DENSITY
  • SEAT CLAMP - ALLOY, WITH QR
  • SEAT POST - 2014-T6 AL, 2D FORGED HEAD, WITH MICRO-ADJUST, NO SETBACK
  • SADDLE - T:NINE FITNESS/MTB, WITH CUSTOM COVER & GEL PADDING
  • PEDALS - RESIN MTB PLATFORM
  • RINGS - 22/32/42
  • FRONT HUB - ALLOY DISC, WITH QR
  • REAR HUB - ALLOY CASSETTE DISC, WITH QR
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Old 01-27-09, 12:01 PM   #2
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Forget the full suspension. You don't need it. You're better off getting better components on a hardtail, and upgrading sometime later if/when you decide MTBing is for you.

edit - how much does that bike weigh?
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Hello,
I wouldn't get a bike with rear suspension unless your really serious, alot of wasted energy..also I wouldn't even get a new bike. You can find smokin' deals on older MB's on craigs list, pawn shops etc..you'll get alot more bang for your buck goin' this route IMHO. And they'll last for years..

Good luck though with whatever you decide...
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Hardtail. people that start off with FS never learn how to ride, or at least, that's my experience.
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+1 for hardtail. You should be able to find one for the same price with a little bit better specs.
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Hardtail. people that start off with FS never learn how to ride, or at least, that's my experience.
True dat.

I got my first FS last year, and only cause my beloved hardtail got stolen. I got used to it, but I could see how easy it would be to get lazy & just ride over everything & never learn to pick a line.
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I wouldn't get a bike with rear suspension unless your really serious, alot of wasted energy..also I wouldn't even get a new bike. You can find smokin' deals on older MB's on craigs list, pawn shops etc..you'll get alot more bang for your buck goin' this route IMHO. And they'll last for years..

Good luck though with whatever you decide...
CL would be ideal, except that at 5'0" I don't have a lot of options plus, I don't know much about MTB's and don't have a lot of resources in the area to take a look at a used one I'm interested in purchasing, so I'm leaning toward new for the warranty, etc.

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Forget the full suspension. You don't need it. You're better off getting better components on a hardtail, and upgrading sometime later if/when you decide MTBing is for you.

edit - how much does that bike weigh?
a metric ton, IMHO. But then, my only other bike is a road bike so its not fare to compare
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hey! if you guys have any recommendations for a MTB around the $600 ish range- (probably a last year model I can get on close-out), that'd be sweeet!
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hey! if you guys have any recommendations for a MTB around the $600 ish range- (probably a last year model I can get on close-out), that'd be sweeet!
Have you tried the LBS's? It should be about the right time to get a good deal on a hardtail.
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Have you tried the LBS's? It should be about the right time to get a good deal on a hardtail.
you are right-- not yet, I haven't gotten out of my bubble much.
plus, no test riding to be had (at least this week, which is when I decided I have money burning a hole in my pocket)
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hey! if you guys have any recommendations for a MTB around the $600 ish range- (probably a last year model I can get on close-out), that'd be sweeet!
Recommendations from people on the internet are great and all, but I'd say check out your LBSs and try to test ride as many bikes as you can to see what's most comfortable for you.
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Recommendations from people on the internet are great and all, but I'd say check out your LBSs and try to test ride as many bikes as you can to see what's most comfortable for you.
meh.
i mean more like "hey! I really like treks, because blah blah..." you know, things I should keep an eye out for.
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you are right-- not yet, I haven't gotten out of my bubble much.
plus, no test riding to be had (at least this week, which is when I decided I have money burning a hole in my pocket)
Sweet We'll have to do some riding later this year. Boulder has some great trails that will test you.
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meh.
i mean more like "hey! I really like treks, because blah blah..."
If you can find a 13" used Schwinn Homegrown, you would rock it on the awesomeness scale.
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meh.
i mean more like "hey! I really like treks, because blah blah..."
well, in that case...

hey! I really like treks, because...I don't know, I ride one. I don't think you can go wrong with anything from the major manufacturers.
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Hardtail for sure.

I've always thought Kona offered great value in their bikes. REI carries some decent bikes, too, and Denver has a sweet REI store. The $500-600 price range is about right for a good entry level mountain bike.
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Just want something to get me started for a season or two, since I don't want to drop the big bux right now. Its on a closeout for $469.99.
This is a better bike on sale for $430 (I assume you're a girl?).

2008 GTw Avalanche 2.0 Disc Ladies Mountain Bike

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=3050

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at 5'0" can you ride a 15" bike or do you need a 13"???
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hey! if you guys have any recommendations for a MTB around the $600 ish range- (probably a last year model I can get on close-out), that'd be sweeet!
That K2 isn't a bad bike, but +whatever w/ the folks who suggest hardtail. Were you looking at REI? That's where I got my K2 rig for around your price point. Check around the LBS & REI, see what's out there, but you'll get better spec on a hardtail.
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If you can find a 13" used Schwinn Homegrown, you would rock it on the awesomeness scale.
I will pay you $5 to track one down for me?

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Sweet We'll have to do some riding later this year. Boulder has some great trails that will test you.
excellent! you will nave a noob tagalong.
you might even get to meet the man! he's a big mountain biker, a little sad our mtb's will be living in different states, though.
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at 5'0" can you ride a 15" bike or do you need a 13"???
Probably a 13" Depends on the handlebar to bike seat measurement, I'm looking at about 56 cm, and a 29" standover

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That K2 isn't a bad bike, but +whatever w/ the folks who suggest hardtail. Were you looking at REI? That's where I got my K2 rig for around your price point. Check around the LBS & REI, see what's out there, but you'll get better spec on a hardtail.
yup I was at REI!

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2008 GTw Avalanche 2.0 Disc Ladies Mountain Bike

http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=3050

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OH NO! no purple. I am a girl, though I haven't looked much at performance bike, but might stop in.

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Hardtail for sure.

I've always thought Kona offered great value in their bikes. REI carries some decent bikes, too, and Denver has a sweet REI store. The $500-600 price range is about right for a good entry level mountain bike.
oh yeah, the denver flagship REI is my heaven.
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I will pay you $5 to track one down for me?

excellent! you will nave a noob tagalong.
you might even get to meet the man! he's a big mountain biker, a little sad our mtb's will be living in different states, though.
Check it out.
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Arti, prepare yourself for my sales pitch (though I'm not going to sell you anything).

As previously stated, don't bother with a full suspension bike of less than $1200 retail value. Even at that pricepoint you're missing out on a lot of componentry even if the suspension is a good design (Read: Not going to actually hold you back rather than benefit you).

F/S bikes below that make some serious compromises in components, like that K2's non-rebuildable OEM-only Spinner shock and heavy drivetrain parts. You'll get much better components with a hardtail at the same pricepoint, and believe me...you'll appreciate the roughly 5-10 lb advantage over the boingy-boingy.

Even with a hardtail, avoid bikes with generic OEM parts. Look for names like Rock Shox, Manitou, Marzocchi or Fox for forks, Avid or Hayes for brakes, and of course Shimano and SRAM/Truvativ for drivetrain. These manufacturers are well-supported and that one time you bust something out in Moab...you won't be stuck with an unfixable bike.

Be wary of buying used F/S bikes. F/S bikes have a limited amount of time before they need major maintenance such as shock rebuilds (and regular maintenance inbetween), pivot replacements and bleeding/rebuilds for hydraulic brakes. There's a shop in Durango that tells all their high-end customers to expect $1500/year in maintenance costs for a $3K+ bike...and they're not far off if you can't do the work yourself. Also, even with a hardtail, once shocks get to about the 5-year mark, parts to rebuild them become sparse...especially those that are a known weak point. You may find that it can no longer be rebuilt...which sucks as replacement shocks ain't cheap.

Check a few women's-specific frames out. They are built with the (often wrong) premise that women have a shorter torso in proportion to men, and by default all bike frames are men's. A MTB is a little bit different in fit than a road bike where your comfort while in one static position is crucial. For MTBs your position is dynamic. You'll be shifting weight onto the front tire for climbs and buzzing your butt on the tire for drops and descents, hovering over the seat for rough flat sections and using your thigh to steer the seat in sharp switchbacks.. A properly-fitting frame gives you full control, and will consequently allow you to ride further and crash less. Try both frame types and use the one that works for you best. You're lucky though...men that fit better on women's-specific designs often balk at the pink flowery paintjobs.

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Get disc brakes if at all possible, preferably cable-activated. The extra power will pump your arms less and the lack of hydraulic fluid to bleed will simplify maintenance, giving very little away in power. I am certified to rebuild just about any hydraulic out there, and I still choose mechanicals for my own bikes.

Treks are OK, as are most brands out there. Honestly, at the price point you're looking at...there's very little difference between them as $600 buys the same amount of bike from Asia, no matter whose brand name is on the check.

Reserve some money for clipless pedals, area-specific tires and a saddle that fits you well. The odds that a manufacturer gets these right for a given person and/or riding terrain is pretty slim. You can sometimes save whole pounds just by swapping cheap OEM tires out, and get better traction to boot. Ask locals what works well for tires, try a bunch of saddles to see what feels good to you.

Ummm...yeah, I could go on and on...
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I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet, but you should probably just go for a hardtail.

A FS bike is good for bombing down the descents, but I think a hardtail is more efficient for climbing, and a FS bike is kind of annoying if you're just going down the road. Having lockouts is desirable.
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