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Old 01-29-09, 03:59 PM   #1
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Winter camping

Who's with me? 2 miles in and set up camp for the night.

Not sure if I'll dig a cave or use my tent.
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I'm in....but I'll throw you in the lake and leave your legs floating above the frozen water. I wonder how long before they'll do something about it?
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I'm in if we're talking Key West.
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if i was properly outfitted, I'd be game.
but that is the issue.

I'll be in key west with MV if you're looking for me.
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if i was properly outfitted, I'd be game.
but that is the issue.

I'll be in key west with MV if you're looking for me.
If you have a 15 degree sleeping bag, you'd be fine. Snow caves usually stay around 40 degrees.
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if i was properly outfitted, I'd be game.
but that is the issue.

I'll be in key west with MV if you're looking for me.
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If you have a 15 degree sleeping bag, you'd be fine. Snow caves usually stay around 40 degrees.
negative.
also... hiking pack? negative.
hiking boots? questionable
proper warm weather hiking clothes? also questionable.

all things on my to-get list, but not priorities.
so, unless I can wear your clothes and you'll sherpa... like I said... I'll be beaching it up in Key West
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negative.
also... hiking pack? negative.
hiking boots? questionable
proper warm weather hiking clothes? also questionable.

all things on my to-get list, but not priorities.
so, unless I can wear your clothes and you'll sherpa... like I said... I'll be beaching it up in Key West
You ski, same gear. For a night, all you'd need is a small backpack. For a sleeping bag, REI rents them.
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You ski, same gear. For a night, all you'd need is a small backpack. For a sleeping bag, REI rents them.
bah, logic.

my hairdryer, laptop and electric toothbrush would not all fit comfortably in a 'small backpack'
how would I camp without them?
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bah, logic.

my hairdryer, laptop and electric toothbrush would not all fit comfortably in a 'small backpack'
how would I camp without them?
good point, you got me there.
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For 5 years I've been using synthetic bags. Now I'm getting into bike-packing and am trying to slim down my gear even more. Looking at down bags vs. synthetic bags for both their size and weight reductions... anyone have any comments on this?

Also, I don't know if it's just getting older, but my synthetic bags just don't seem to be as warm as they were a few years ago. Maybe they lose insulating abilities?
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For 5 years I've been using synthetic bags. Now I'm getting into bike-packing and am trying to slim down my gear even more. Looking at down bags vs. synthetic bags for both their size and weight reductions... anyone have any comments on this?

Also, I don't know if it's just getting older, but my synthetic bags just don't seem to be as warm as they were a few years ago. Maybe they lose insulating abilities?
Synthetic bags do lose their insulating properties after a few years. It's not you. Synthetics are cheaper and they still insulate when wet. If these are really important to you, then get another synthetic bag.

Down packs tighter, it's lighter, if properly kept, they'll never lose their insulating properties. They are more expensive. General rule of thumb is to not buy anything under 650 fill. So that makes them more expensive and if you slip and fall into a stream or go through a rainstorm without taking waterproofing precautions, expect to freeze your ass off the entire night. Once down gets wet, the feathers start sticking together, this reduces the air between the feathers which is what actually insulates you.

It all depends on your style and where you're gonna ride. If I backpacked in the Pacific NW, I'd look harder into a nice synth bag...
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I'm in....but I'll throw you in the lake and leave your legs floating above the frozen water. I wonder how long before they'll do something about it?
Don't do that. It might interfere with my hockey game...
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I have both synthetic and down bags to cover most temperature ranges... I let the weather dictate which one I bring.. any significant chance of rain I bring the synthetic and pay the price with more weight and a tighter fit in the pack.

I have buddies who swear by their down bags with a goretex shell..but I still stick with synthetic for wet/cold situations.

UA,,personally I would tent it.. .I hate snow caves.. something is always dripping,,, and usually right on my face
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I'm in, but I have no equipment. Would you consider sharing a sleeping bag, UA? You know, for warmth and all that...
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If you have a 15 degree sleeping bag, you'd be fine. Snow caves usually stay around 40 degrees.
I've noticed that I have a different definition of a 15 degree sleeping bag than the people who make 15 degree sleeping bags do.

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I've noticed that I have a different definition of a 15 degree sleeping bag than the people who make 15 degree sleeping bags do.

Have fun.

Yah,,, me too.. I always go 10 degrees colder than the forecast.. I'm a wus.
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Arti,, you need to keep Steepandcheap.com on your desktop at all times.. SandC also shows all the sales going on at chainlove, tramdock, bonktown. You could build up a great winter kit on the cheap in no time.

edit: although it might be hard to find sizes in leprechaun
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Yah,,, me too.. I always go 10 degrees colder than the forecast.. I'm a wus.
The temp ratings on bags are somewhat subjective. I can use a 32 degree bag in 25 degree weather. I have a friend that needs a 15 degree bag in 30 degree weather. It really all varies on how much heat you put out during the night, what you're digesting, humidity, etc. You just need to find a bag that works, really.
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I'm down. I even have experience building a snow cave.

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I build my snow caves the easy way

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I'm in. I have probably sufficient gear.

While a snow cave would be warmer, I'd prefer a tent as my down bag only has a tafeta shell and I would freeze my cojones off in a dripping cave.
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Make sure that you bring a heat reflecting rescue blanket to put on the floor of your tent. Even in a good bag, your body heat can get sucked right down through the floor of your tent at night.

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