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    My next car.

    2010 Honda Insight Hybrid. The press boys got their hands on one and it got written up in the new Road & Track. EPA mpg estimates are going to be 40 city/43 highway, but the Road & Track writer saw 54 mpg the other journalists all consistently got 55-65+ mpg, with one guy getting 70 mpg. Wow. If the car can deliver that and is reasonably comfortable/safe and comes in at the projected MSRP of <$22K, they will sell a ton of those bad boys. That will put huge sales pressure on the Prius, which strikes me as pricey, even though Toyota reportedly makes very little or loses money on the car at the moment.

    A 5 passenger hatchback that gets 55 mpg? That's off the hinges. That's similar fuel economy to a smaller engine motorcycle (500-800cc).


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    or similar fuel economy to a VW lupo, hatch back diesel which gets up to 78mpg.
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    I liked the old Insight, really. Not so much the hybrid drivetrain, but the neo-CRX styling, two doors, two seats, and small exterior were pretty neat. Unfortunately, I'm one of the few, and it died a sad, lonely death.

    I just can't get over how much the new Insight looks like a badge-engineered Prius. I doubt it is, but geez.

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    I wonder what the battery bank costs to replace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy View Post
    I wonder what the battery bank costs to replace
    I wonder how much damage the manufacture of the battery bank does to the environment. Nickel smelting is a dirty proposition.
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    Motorized egg on wheels!

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    rather get something like a honda fit

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    Very cool. That is much more stylish than your fugly SUV.

    By the time I can afford to buy one, it'll be about 20years old.
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    must be what... $50,000 NZD?
    Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LP560 View Post
    rather get something like a honda fit
    +1. Have an '08 (well, it's the family car and the wife drives it 99% of the time) and it is awesome.
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    The Honda Fit is good for 30-35 mpg. I like the new Insight because it's slightly larger. But it will be a Fit, Civic or Insight. I'd like to keep it as close to or under $20K as possible.

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    Really, If anyone can build something like this for around twenty grand, I wouldn't be surprised for it to be Honda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x136 View Post
    Really, If anyone can build something like this for around twenty grand, I wouldn't be surprised for it to be Honda.
    Yeah, it definitely helps to have no lower limit to quality when trying to achieve a cost target.
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    Quote Originally Posted by x136 View Post
    I liked the old Insight, really. Not so much the hybrid drivetrain, but the neo-CRX styling, two doors, two seats, and small exterior were pretty neat. Unfortunately, I'm one of the few, and it died a sad, lonely death.
    Nah, you weren't the only one, I liked it too. I even thought it was pretty ugly, but for some reason I liked it. Maybe because I also owned a CRX. Best car I ever had, without question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AEO View Post
    must be what... $50,000 NZD?
    Despite our peso's worth, it will probably be only mid $40,000s here. We have an unregulated market and get shiploads of used Japanese imports every year. It won't take long before someone brings in a few and sells them cheaper than whatever the list price will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by x136 View Post
    I liked the old Insight, really. Not so much the hybrid drivetrain, but the neo-CRX styling, two doors, two seats, and small exterior were pretty neat. Unfortunately, I'm one of the few, and it died a sad, lonely death.

    I just can't get over how much the new Insight looks like a badge-engineered Prius. I doubt it is, but geez.
    I liked the look of the old Insight, not because it looked like a honda, but because it looked more like a small Citroen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ehidle View Post
    Yeah, it definitely helps to have no lower limit to quality when trying to achieve a cost target.
    That's what I'd say about a GM/Ford/Chrysler product, but Honda seems to have, you know, standards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lamplight View Post
    Nah, you weren't the only one, I liked it too. I even thought it was pretty ugly, but for some reason I liked it. Maybe because I also owned a CRX. Best car I ever had, without question.
    The old Insight and the Toyota Yaris two modern cars that hit that "completely ugly, but I kind of like them anyway" sweet spot. I'd love to find a nice-condition, non-pimped first- or second-generation CRX someday.

    Quote Originally Posted by gnome View Post
    I liked the look of the old Insight, not because it looked like a honda, but because it looked more like a small Citroen.
    Heh, it did. It had that same narrow rear end, wheelcovers thing going on that the Citroen DS did.

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    my Honda gets better than 31 mpg in town. and it's paid for.

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    must be what... $50,000 NZD?
    Despite our peso's worth, it will probably be only mid $40,000s here. We have an unregulated market and get shiploads of used Japanese imports every year. It won't take long before someone brings in a few and sells them cheaper than whatever the list price will be.
    Here are the prices you pay for a new Honda here per Honda New Zealand's website. Jazz 1.5 (Fit) $28,700, Civic Hybrid $40,800, Civic 1.8 Sport $34,600, plus on-road costs of about $800. You can't get a discount on new Honda's here. They have decided to have one price for everyone, including fleet buyers, on the basis that that will help maintain the resale value and it seems to be working.
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    I'm pretty excited to see Mazda will be bringing the Mazda2 to the states. 2008 World car of the year. Industry rags are saying we'll get the 1.6 gas and no diesel, but Mazda isn't saying.

    I'll take a 5-speed 1.4 turbo diesel (54 mpg). 114g/km of CO2 emissions is the lowest production car ever sold in Europe. And I'm guessing substantially less than $40k. zoom zoom at no extra cost.
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    If Honda says they can do it, they can. I have never seen a vehicle model from Honda that is absolute junk. Individual lemons, maybe, but not a model as whole.

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    That's too nice a car for you.

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    I would rather be dead than have somethingg that freaking ugly in my driveway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy View Post
    I wonder what the battery bank costs to replace
    $800. I have 92,000 on my Civic hybrid and the battery is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Kammback View Post
    I would rather be dead than have somethingg that freaking ugly in my driveway
    Ya, not nearly as nice an an AMC Eagle...

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