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Old 02-04-09, 07:20 PM   #1
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Car on campus -- when I draw the line?

I drove my car back to college this semester. Being one with a car, people ask me for rides now. Okay, no big deal; I tell them I'll bring them to their destination (within reason) next time I go out to that area. Basically I just try and consolidate trips, so I'll ask 4 people if they need to go anywhere whenever I leave campus.

Anyways, one friend of mine asked me to make a few trips to the bus station for her (a 1.1 mile distance):

To and from to pick up tickets.
Drop her off at 9:30AM
Pick her up 2 days later.

2 weeks later...
To and from to pickup tickets.
Drop her off at 9:30AM
Pick her up 2 days later.

Typically I wake up around 11 on Fridays.

I don't want to be an A'hole about this, but I feel like so many trips (rather ridiculous ones, in my opinion) deserve some sort of compensation, especially when it's a very short walk and even shorter bus ride (which is free to students). Would it be unreasonable of me to ask for some sort of compensation in exchange for the fuel, wear and tear, and inconvenience caused to me?
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Old 02-04-09, 07:29 PM   #2
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I drove my car back to college this semester. Being one with a car, people ask me for rides now. Okay, no big deal; I tell them I'll bring them to their destination (within reason) next time I go out to that area. Basically I just try and consolidate trips, so I'll ask 4 people if they need to go anywhere whenever I leave campus.

Anyways, one friend of mine asked me to make a few trips to the bus station for her (a 1.1 mile distance):

To and from to pick up tickets.
Drop her off at 9:30AM
Pick her up 2 days later.

2 weeks later...
To and from to pickup tickets.
Drop her off at 9:30AM
Pick her up 2 days later.

Typically I wake up around 11 on Fridays.

I don't want to be an A'hole about this, but I feel like so many trips (rather ridiculous ones, in my opinion) deserve some sort of compensation, especially when it's a very short walk and even shorter bus ride (which is free to students). Would it be unreasonable of me to ask for some sort of compensation in exchange for the fuel, wear and tear, and inconvenience caused to me?
They're using you because it's easier than the other options. Make it less easy.
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Old 02-04-09, 07:35 PM   #3
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That's just it, I don't want to be used and be a *****. I don't mind bringing people to Walmart, Giant Eagle, Staples, etc; these stores are all in the same general area and I usually have running around to do anyways. People generally ask "Hey can you bring me to this place?" and I remember them when I head that direction. Short trips are bad for my car -- which has 284,000 miles on it -- anyways. I just want to be fair about this.
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If you're heading that way, take them. That's very fair. If you aren't, that's the way things are. Either they pay for wear and tear or they find an alternative.
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Just be late for a few trips and she will get the idea.
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Ass, grass or gas, no one rides for free.
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Dude, you're getting played, used, and walked on. Stand up for yourself. Some people look for people like you, and then put their hand out.

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If you're heading that way, take them. That's very fair. If you aren't, that's the way things are.
This. (Of course, I say that, but in real life, I'd be all about helping a friend out if at all possible, depending on how close of a friend.)

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Ha ha, I remember one of my high school teachers warned us my senior year to not bring a car to campus when we got to college cause everyone will either want to borrow it or want a ride. He was spot on

This teacher had 3 or 4 kids, both male and female, and said he learned his lesson after the first kid got to school.
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Car don't run but once a week? If there is a freakin' bus service (and free to boot?) why aren't they using it? Maybe you need to get a bumper sticker like the ones I see on pickups around the university. "Yes it is my truck, NO I won't help you move" Except in your case it should read "Yes I own this car, NO free rides!"

FWIW my son had a car at college for a semester, but decided he didn't want it after that one, too much hassle. Did the local bus thing for 3.5 years We always made sure there was a car or ride available if and when he wanted to come home for holidays or long weekends. Intrastate bus service is nonexistent in this area.

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BTW www.greyhound.com buy tickets online!

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Haha, the irony here is that I am BRINGING her to the Greyhound station! This is the cause of this quagmire.

Is 10 dollars a fair asking price for everything?
I am good friends with this girl.
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A little gentler than telling her to "just goddamn walk, it's only a mile!" might be to offer to walk her to the bus station. It's not far, going for a walk with someone is always nice, and she may not even realize how close the place is.
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Suggest that you pick her up an hour early and she can buy your breakfast at a nice diner, etc., etc.. Be nice about it, but get something in return. Altruism only goes so far.
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Yeah, it's not either/or with being "nice" versus an "***hole". There's a wide range in between and you can frame it so that they do something for you in return so that you don't feel put out.
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Meh. I just tell them I .......oops. I used that one on Jon before. Nevermind.
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Haha, the irony here is that I am BRINGING her to the Greyhound station! This is the cause of this quagmire.

Is 10 dollars a fair asking price for everything?
I am good friends with this girl.
Find out what a taxi cab would charge...and go from there.

The reason I know about Greyhound is I always check it prior to heading out to any of my job sites, along with Amtrak for alternate transportation. Plus I have had to help a few guys get back and forth using Greyhound. You can purchase the tickets online and pick them up at the station when you get there.

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It's 1.1 miles.

Why can't she walk it?
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It's 1.1 miles.

Why can't she walk it?
Just a guess, but she might be going home to do her laundry.

But, yeah, why can't she walk it? She have an aversion to the outdoors/exercise/a pulse?
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Your "friends" will nearly always allow you to be a free Taxi for them. The sad part is..... the first time you tell them that you can't take them where they need to go, they'll get angry with you.

In the case of the young lady, who seems to expect you to cater to her, inform her that you need help with the expenses of your car. If she readily offers to help, accept it. If she begins to explain how poor she is, tell her you can no longer be her Taxi.
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Get rid of the car. Problem solved.
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The problem is that someone needs to learn to say no.

Until that person says no, there is no need for the other person to pay up.

Until someone says no, there is no need to negotiate...

EDIT: I realized this when I noticed that this would be my issue if I were in a similar situation.
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Is 10 dollars a fair asking price for everything?
I am good friends with this girl.
I haven't read that chapter of Life yet. I think you'll have to just go with C.
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