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    Question for Aquarium experts

    I have a 29 gallon warm fresh water tank.
    It contains the following fish.
    7 - Mollies of various sizes. One large 2" and six medium 1" - 1 1/2" range
    3 - Corydora 1 1/2" or so. Full grown.
    4 - guppies, all 1" or under
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    2 clumps of moneywort
    1 clump of frill.

    I do weekly water changes of around 5 -6 gallons each.

    Aquarium salt is added on a semi regular basis

    I do not check water quality, as I have no idea what I am doing. Water temp is upper 70's. It has an interal power filter by Whisper that uses a mesh filter element filled with carbon to clean the water.

    I have a problem with water clarity. Really hard to get crystal clear water.

    I have a feeling that I have too many fish in the tank and that I either need to decrease the number of fish or increase filtration.

    Any thoughts? I would prefer not to decrease number of fish, so I quess I am really asking for thoughts on increased filtration and what type/brand/size filter to consider.
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    Clean out the fish litter box.
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    UV filter.

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    Needs moar bass.
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    You need a chocolate plecostomus. They suck the green stuff off the glass.



    Plus if you go to the aquarium supply store you can get this stuff.

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    Another problem could be algae. If the clarifier doesn't work, you might try going a few days with minimizing the light. Cover it or something.
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    I have used the tank clearing drops, Acurel F25 I believe, and I add water conditioner at each water change.
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    On the light isssue, it is not in a room with windows, so it never receives direct sunlight. The tank does get indirect light and incandcescent light from the room lighting, as well as flourescent light from the tank light.

    I tend to leave the tank light on all day. Turn it on at 6 Am when I feed, turn it off at around 10-11 PM when I go to bed.

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    UV filter.

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    Any brand of UV fitler you reccomend MV? I am assuming this uses UV light to kill stuff in the water? Do they also filter out the dead stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
    Any brand of UV fitler you reccomend MV? I am assuming this uses UV light to kill stuff in the water? Do they also filter out the dead stuff?
    they all work the same.....water flows under a UV light, which kills the algae....perfectly safe for your fish. The fish can still even eat the algae. Brand doesn't matter too much. They do not filter out particles...they just kill microbes. Your local store can recommend a size and brand to you.

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    Pick up a small canister filter to go under your tank. They run very quiet, they are very efficient, and low maintenance. I am a huge believer in over filtration. I run two canisters on my 55 gallon tank with just one Red Devil in it. It has enough filtration for a 125 gallon tank. On my 210 gallon tank I run three different canister filters, enough for approximately 350 gallons.

    I generally clean one filter on each tank every couple of months.

    Also, when you clean your tank are you vaccuming the gravel? If not that could be part of your problem. Check out a python to sweep it out. On a 29 gallon tank with that load you should be doing about 8 - 10 gallons every two weeks.

    A UV filter should not be necessary unless you are having algae blooms. Also, chemicals should be a last resort. Also, pleco's create more waste than they get rid of.
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    Sounds like your number/size of fish is ok if you go by the 1” of fish/gallon of tank rule of thumb. I have a 20 gallon that I ended up adding a second filter to when I added too many fish. I haven’t had a problem since (except for algae when I’m unable to do the regular water changes). I use the Whisper brand that hang on the back of the tank. You might want to ask your local fish store or Google for a fish forum – I’ve seen them in the past so they do exist – can’t speak to how helpful they’d be though – Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    they all work the same.....water flows under a UV light, which kills the algae....perfectly safe for your fish. The fish can still even eat the algae. Brand doesn't matter too much. They do not filter out particles...they just kill microbes. Your local store can recommend a size and brand to you.
    Not exactly, some go straight through, some loop around the light several times providing more time exposed to the UV light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LowCel View Post
    Not exactly, some go straight through, some loop around the light several times providing more time exposed to the UV light.
    and some use stronger lights than others....but basically, they do the same things.

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    +1 to what LowCel said about vacuuming the gravel
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    Quote Originally Posted by colorider View Post
    You might want to ask your local fish store or Google for a fish forum – I’ve seen them in the past so they do exist – can’t speak to how helpful they’d be though – Good luck.
    Here are a few that I visit.

    Aquatic Predators
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    Oscar Fish
    Reef Central

    Here are a couple of good places to buy aquarium goodies.

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    Just for the heck of it, here are a couple of videos of my 210 cichlid tank.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-N_N_FA4IE"]YouTube - 210 gallon cichlid tank occupants[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYLcI7TlAwM&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - 210 gallon tank[/ame]
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    Can I choose one for dinner? Like they do in restaurants with lobsters.

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    LOL, if you do go for the 18" Giant Gourami. My wife would thank you for that one. She swears that it is going to have us for dinner one of these days.
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    I do use a gravel vac siphon when I do the weekly water change.

    I have two 3 gallon buckets that I fill with tap water and condition prior to the water change, hence my 6 gallon per week change.

    I do not use the drops very often, in fact, have only used them twice.

    I do add salt every few changes, as I figure when I am vacuuming out teh water, whatever salt is in it is being removed as well, unlike when water evaporates and salt stays in tank.

    My tank sits on a shelf ( the bar to our wet bar actually ) and since it is not on a stand, there is not room for a filter underneath. My current filter is the Whisper Bio Bag type that hangs on the back of the tank and it was inlcluded with the tank kit at purchase. I change the filter bag and carbon when I do the water change.
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    In fact, I decreased the amount of gravel on teh tank bottom recently to make sure I was getting it clean. There is only about 1/2" or so of gravel at the most.
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    you could dump out the water and replace it with acrylic....if you do it right you can even have the fish "floating" in it permanently. And it will always be clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    you could dump out the water and replace it with acrylic....if you do it right you can even have the fish "floating" in it permanently. And it will always be clear.
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