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Old 02-09-09, 10:07 PM   #1
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Anybody know anything about graffiti removal?

In the coming warmer months, my friends and I from opencarry.org are planning on doing some graffiti removal to get some positive open carry attention while at the same time doing some helpful community service.

On the face of it it seems pretty simple. Get written permission from the cities or private property owners, get donations of paint or have property owners maybe pay for it, and use a power washer where needed. We even have someone working on making our group into a non profit organization, so by spring we should even be able to get tax deductible donations of graffiti removal stuff from stores, as well as other stuff for charitable uses.

Simple as it seems, and even though I've got plenty of experience with painting and surface restoration, I'm sure that someone who's done this before could give me some useful pointers. I have seen a number of specialized graffiti removal products, but rather than make mistakes ordering junk, it would be nice if anyone here with experience could tell me what works. Also, is there a type of public official that I would normally want to contact at the city level if I'm inquiring about painting or power washing city property? What if I wanted to restore something federal, like a mail box?

Thanks in advance for any info.
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Dang I forgot what it was called but if I remember correctly there was some kind of paint that The City uses that makes it easier to remove graffiti. I guess what it is, is that the spray paint cannot adhere so good so it's easier to remove.
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Must be some sort of high durability finish that will better stand up to thinner. Sounds like a good product to use when repainting entire surfaces.
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Dang I forgot what it was called but if I remember correctly there was some kind of paint that The City uses that makes it easier to remove graffiti. I guess what it is, is that the spray paint cannot adhere so good so it's easier to remove.
theres a way around that now
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I'v done stuff like that mainly around where I work and I normally just use a regular roller and paint. Nothing special.

Something like this siu?
http://www.epicuro.co.uk/index.cfm?p....cfm&eccatid=6

It doesn't make it harder for paint to stick but it does make it easier to remove the paint.
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Yep. I think that was it!! Thanks for finding it!
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Removing graffiti is easier than removing tattoos.
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Instead of throwing a bunch of solvents and energy at the wall, why not sponsor local artists to piece it with new art
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Our city has been involved with "Project Clean Sweep" since 2006. Several publicized times a year the city (my college organized a few big "meetings" for this) inhabitants - could be colleges, football teams, businesses, grade schools, etc to clean certain parts of the city of junk, litter and graffiti. And at the end - the mega pounds of garbage was the result. Very nice!

http://www.ci.rochester.ny.us/index.cfm?id=746
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They did that with a wall in our area. The wall was part of a cinder block fence that belonged to a corner house that was always a target for graffiti. The artist did a fantastic job. It was her donation to beautify the neighborhood. It was really pretty - she spent a few months designing it and actually putting it forth. No more than two weeks later it was covered in graffiti. She fixed it, taking her three weeks to re do it again.

A few days later it was messed up again.

She was so upset she never came back. So the neighbors tried to touch it up but it just didn't match. And then it was "tagged" again.
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The thing about graffiti removal is that you have to be ready to do followup painting
when the next bit of graffiti appears again. If you dont do that, you may be wasting
a lot of time.
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In the bay area of California, that would probably work nicely. Around here, people probably wouldn't like it.
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You can use a sandblaster for either one.
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Our city has been involved with "Project Clean Sweep" since 2006. Several publicized times a year the city (my college organized a few big "meetings" for this) inhabitants - could be colleges, football teams, businesses, grade schools, etc to clean certain parts of the city of junk, litter and graffiti. And at the end - the mega pounds of garbage was the result. Very nice!

http://www.ci.rochester.ny.us/index.cfm?id=746
We're also planning on doing litter clean ups.
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you can also screw up a wall over time too
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We're also planning on doing litter clean ups.
Awww, you gonna give puppies a bath??
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what's the matter with a little grafitti culture on the walls?
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They did that with a wall in our area. The wall was part of a cinder block fence that belonged to a corner house that was always a target for graffiti. The artist did a fantastic job. It was her donation to beautify the neighborhood. It was really pretty - she spent a few months designing it and actually putting it forth. No more than two weeks later it was covered in graffiti. She fixed it, taking her three weeks to re do it again.

A few days later it was messed up again.

She was so upset she never came back. So the neighbors tried to touch it up but it just didn't match. And then it was "tagged" again.
So it was about exactly as effective as just removing the graffiti would have been, but at least this way people's lives were enriched by her art for a couple of weeks. That's not a bad result
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My nephew was involved in coordinating a graffiti removal project. If you shoot me an email address in a PM, I could forward it on to him, and see if he's got a moment to share some experiences with you.
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Just paint the wall to look like a Hawaiian or a Tie-Dye shirt. All future graffiti will be invisible against that kind of backdrop.
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In NYC, They just use more graffitti....ya know, out with the old, in with the new...
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what's the matter with a little grafitti culture on the walls?
Something about gangs screwing up neighborhoods, it's not pleasing.
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Will do, thanks.
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Something about gangs screwing up neighborhoods, it's not pleasing.
only gang members do graffiti = some bad racist stereotyping
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