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Old 02-12-09, 07:01 AM   #1
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Today will probably be the day

So ....

Today will probably be the day we find out whether or not my wife will keep her job. It's going to change us big time. We may lose a lot. Maybe everything.

I gotta tell you, I feel like I've been rolled over. Too much s**t has happened to me the last year. The towel is in my hand ready to be thrown in. Sometimes you just feel like saying, "F it." Let the next wave crash on you and let it sweep you out into the sea. But then there's that inkling of hope. Just something to grab a hold of, even for a second, to catch your breath. I have several races scheduled and paid for coming up soon. It's my inkling of hope. It could be a moment of solace in everything I've been battling. Can I harness this pain and anger and use it to my advantage? Can I push all this crap aside and focus just enough to do well? Or am I going to give up, quit, pus out and bellyache? With me it's never an easy answer. I'd like to think I'm strong enough to win this over. Hell, I've battled depression, a rocky marriage, health problems, family problems, and financial problems plus tons of other things this year. What's one more, right? What's one more thing that I have to carry. Just find room on my back and load 'er up. Yeah, my legs are shaky. My f-ing back hurts. Screw it though. If there's room, pile it on. If there's not room. Wedge it in. I can handle it.
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Business is brutal. I laid off one person in November, down to one full timer, he may go next. Very hard to concentrate on silly crap like bicycle racing when you're stressed about your income dropping by 50%. Oh well. The scariest thing is how fast it has eroded. From great to nowhere in < six months. Nobody's doing anything. Small companies, big corporations, it is friggin dead. Nobody's spending money (just me for my bicycle, that's it).

Big corporations still have the dough, but their suits have issued the 'pull in the horns' edict, so they stop doing everything, lay off thousands of people - out of well justified fear of everything going on all around them - and then 6-12 months later many of them realize 'we can't stop doing business all together, we'll make less money'. Then some of them re-hire some people and start resuming business practices they've followed for 20+ years. It's surviving the pause that's the hard part.

Scary **** boys. You might as well ride your bikes. While you can.
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Hang in there pal. We're all in this together. Actually, you're really on your own, but it feels good to say **** like that when the world is melting down.
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Old 02-12-09, 07:54 AM   #4
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Old 02-12-09, 08:02 AM   #5
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Good luck. Waiting for the other shoe to drop is brutal.

In the meantime, maybe she should visit the supply closet one last time?

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Old 02-12-09, 08:17 AM   #7
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Hang in there pal. We're all in this together. Actually, you're really on your own, but it feels good to say **** like that when the world is melting down.
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Good luck sub, it has not been a good year for ya'. Hang in there. Hopefully you will be able to find peace while on the bike. It works for me.
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Business is brutal. I laid off one person in November, down to one full timer, he may go next. Very hard to concentrate on silly crap like bicycle racing when you're stressed about your income dropping by 50%. Oh well. The scariest thing is how fast it has eroded. From great to nowhere in < six months. Nobody's doing anything. Small companies, big corporations, it is friggin dead. Nobody's spending money (just me for my bicycle, that's it).

Big corporations still have the dough, but their suits have issued the 'pull in the horns' edict, so they stop doing everything, lay off thousands of people - out of well justified fear of everything going on all around them - and then 6-12 months later many of them realize 'we can't stop doing business all together, we'll make less money'. Then some of them re-hire some people and start resuming business practices they've followed for 20+ years. It's surviving the pause that's the hard part.

Scary **** boys. You might as well ride your bikes. While you can.
The company that I worked for just announced bonuses for all eligible employees of 80% of normal annual bonus amounts (I'm not getting one ), pleased to announce in fact. Only thing is they had to eliminate a quarter of the corporate office staff, outsource the tech help desk to India, a couple of non-published rounds of lay-offs in both the retail and my divisions, and place an indefinite hold on wage increases to do it.

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I went through this last week with my wife. It is a wee bit stressful to put it mildly.
We could survive half a year on one income. Both of us being layed off would be disastrous.

Good luck to both of you.
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Old 02-12-09, 09:50 AM   #12
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Business is brutal. I laid off one person in November, down to one full timer, he may go next. Very hard to concentrate on silly crap like bicycle racing when you're stressed about your income dropping by 50%. Oh well. The scariest thing is how fast it has eroded. From great to nowhere in < six months. Nobody's doing anything. Small companies, big corporations, it is friggin dead. Nobody's spending money (just me for my bicycle, that's it).

Big corporations still have the dough, but their suits have issued the 'pull in the horns' edict, so they stop doing everything, lay off thousands of people - out of well justified fear of everything going on all around them - and then 6-12 months later many of them realize 'we can't stop doing business all together, we'll make less money'. Then some of them re-hire some people and start resuming business practices they've followed for 20+ years. It's surviving the pause that's the hard part.

Scary **** boys. You might as well ride your bikes. While you can.
several industries are doing quite well still, like the legal, I turn work away daily

get ye to the non discretionary side of the economy
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Old 02-12-09, 09:51 AM   #13
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Uncertainty about your future is what is causing you stress. Imagine the worst that can possibly happen and then quantify it. This eliminates uncertainty and will have a calming effect. For example, if I lose my job I will lose my house and then I will move into my brother's house. That's not so bad. So what if you lose all of your material possessions? Houses, cars, investments and all that other crap are meaningless.
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Confirmed. She lost her job.

See ya'll later.
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Confirmed. She lost her job.

See ya'll later.
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Try not to panic - and you're definitely not alone.
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Man. I hope things look up for you guys.
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So ....

Today will probably be the day we find out whether or not my wife will keep her job. It's going to change us big time. We may lose a lot. Maybe everything.

I gotta tell you, I feel like I've been rolled over. Too much s**t has happened to me the last year. The towel is in my hand ready to be thrown in. Sometimes you just feel like saying, "F it." Let the next wave crash on you and let it sweep you out into the sea. But then there's that inkling of hope. Just something to grab a hold of, even for a second, to catch your breath. I have several races scheduled and paid for coming up soon. It's my inkling of hope. It could be a moment of solace in everything I've been battling. Can I harness this pain and anger and use it to my advantage? Can I push all this crap aside and focus just enough to do well? Or am I going to give up, quit, pus out and bellyache? With me it's never an easy answer. I'd like to think I'm strong enough to win this over. Hell, I've battled depression, a rocky marriage, health problems, family problems, and financial problems plus tons of other things this year. What's one more, right? What's one more thing that I have to carry. Just find room on my back and load 'er up. Yeah, my legs are shaky. My f-ing back hurts. Screw it though. If there's room, pile it on. If there's not room. Wedge it in. I can handle it.

or you can just ride the wave and see where it takes you, the place you end up in may not be as bad as you think.
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Damn that sucks!

Try to start living with less. What can you cut out of your life? Do you drive or ride a bike around town? Reduce your car usage to bring down your gas bills, if you have two cars maybe consider selling one. You will save on the insurance and have the cash from the sale. Do you eat out for lunch or pack lunch?

Consider what you really need to be happy instead of what society and advertisements tell you you need to be happy. Do you rent or own? If you rent then look into downsizing, my wife and I live comfortably in a studio, which also helps us save money by not buying crap simply because we do not have space.

Check out the living simply thread in the car free forum for ideas on how to save money and live better while doing it.
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So sorry Sub....I hope everything works out quickly for you guys.
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Hang in there, pal and don't go making any panic moves. Try not to let the stress cloud your minds as you begin to brainstorm options and contingency plans.
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Sorry to hear it. Try not to despair. A positive attitude counts for a lot when job hunting.
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