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    Coffee or Beer?

    I have a little extra money at the moment. I can't decide whether I would rather buy:

    a) a better coffee grinder so I can make better espresso, as well as a french press, and an electric kettle for the press as well as making tea

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    b) homebrewing equipment so I can finally make 5 gallon batches of beer

    I only have enough money to buy one. What should I get?

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    beer is too cheap to buy to warrant making your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfster View Post
    beer is too cheap to buy to warrant making your own.
    I think that would depend on the type of beer. Watery mass produced lager might be cheaper to buy, but a lot of ales would probably be cheaper (and more fun) to make at home (and the extract kits are supposed to turn out really well).

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    Buy a couple sixes of really good beer and a bottle of barley wine. Then buy
    this
    Daterra, Northern Italian style espresso

    GHH Select Custom House Blend

    and one of their limited edition coffees, your pick
    http://www.terroircoffee.com/store/m...fo.php?gid=271

    George Howell is one of the only coffee guys in the country worth paying attention to.
    Btw, what are you using for a grinder now?
    Last edited by late; 02-14-09 at 08:13 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taerom View Post
    I think that would depend on the type of beer. Watery mass produced lager might be cheaper to buy, but a lot of ales would probably be cheaper (and more fun) to make at home (and the extract kits are supposed to turn out really well).
    I used to make beer. I'd typically use a couple cans of imported malt. Check the prices and see if it makes sense for you. After you get the hang of it (first batch is usually a disaster) try a batch with 3 cans and champagne yeast (barley wine).

    Btw, the secret of good beer is temp control. If the temp is going much over 40
    where you brew I wouldn't bother. I had a really cold cellar once. Beer brewed warmer always tastes a bit funky.
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    i had a roommate who brewed his own beer. god was that annoying. the beer was nasty too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taerom View Post
    I think that would depend on the type of beer. Watery mass produced lager might be cheaper to buy, but a lot of ales would probably be cheaper (and more fun) to make at home (and the extract kits are supposed to turn out really well).
    The kind you'd be able to successfully make at home would be cheap to buy. Good luck making high quality beer at home.

    Coffee on the other hand can be brewed very well at home. Just ask KT.

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    Coffee. Its more of a sure thing.
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    Sounds like some people have had some beer brewed in poorly sanitized equipment. Stick to brewing ales at warmer temps and you'll be fine. Lagers need to be kept around 40 degrees or so.

    http://www.howtobrew.com/intro.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by late View Post
    Btw, what are you using for a grinder now?
    a Braun whirly blade grinder...

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    I roast my own coffee and have made my own beer. I would vote for the coffee, since you probably drink that every day and don't drink beer every day. The major capital investment in homebrewing is buying all the equipment. Once that is bought, the ingredients are not that expensive, but when you amortize out the costs of the equipment, it takes several batches before you start saving money over buying commercial beer. Making good coffee at home however, as opposed to going to Starbucks, has a much shorter payback period.
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    I don't know anyone who hasn't shelved their home brew kits. A coffee grinder is forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillCreek View Post
    I would vote for the coffee, since you probably drink that every day and don't drink beer every day.
    This is what I was thinking. I know I'd use and enjoy the coffee stuff every day. Ultimately, I'll end up buying both the coffee and beer stuff, I just wasn't sure which I should get right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    I don't know anyone who hasn't shelved their home brew kits. A coffee grinder is forever.
    I know several people (through my microbiology club) who actively brew their own beer and wine.

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    Coffee > Beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    Coffee > Beer.
    In the morning, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taerom View Post
    In the morning, yes.
    always....caffeine is considered a PED...alcohol? Not so much.

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    Beer. Homebrewing is a blast. Get some friends over, takes a half day to a day to do it. Hang out, drink beer, and make some good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsafealpine View Post
    coffee. Home roasting is a blast. Get some friends over, takes a half day to a day to do it. Hang out, drink some good coffee, and make some good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardyWeinberg View Post
    I don't know anyone who hasn't shelved their home brew kits. A coffee grinder is forever.
    When I was younger, I was very active in homebrewing, won some awards and even had a recipe for a clone of Redhook ESB published in one of Papazian's books. But as I have gotten older, I lean more towards red wine since my wife enjoys that too. I am the only beer-drinker in the house, and making a batch of 50 12 ounce bottles would last me several months, since I only drink 1-2 beers a week now, if that. So from the economic and variety perspective, it is cheaper and easier for me to buy a couple six packs of different beers and drink that. If I was still competing, or was supplying beer to a host of friends, as I did in earlier days, homebrewing would make more sense. If you are in college and are drinking mass quantities of beer, the scale and economics of homebrewing are more compelling.

    But coffee we drink every day. And I can buy a pound of green beans for about $ 3-4 dollars and roast it myself to have the freshest coffee available. This makes more economic sense than buying gourmet roasted coffee at $ 10-15 pound. We probably go through 1.5 pounds of coffee per week.
    Regards, MillCreek
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    always....caffeine is considered a PED...alcohol? Not so much.
    depends on what you're trying to "enhance"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillCreek View Post
    I am the only beer-drinker in the house, and making a batch of 50 12 ounce bottles would last me several months, since I only drink 1-2 beers a week now, if that. So from the economic and variety perspective, it is cheaper and easier for me to buy a couple six packs of different beers and drink that. If I was still competing, or was supplying beer to a host of friends, as I did in earlier days, homebrewing would make more sense. If you are in college and are drinking mass quantities of beer, the scale and economics of homebrewing are more compelling.
    This is something I am a little worried about. I don't actually drink a whole lot of beer. Five gallons would last me a long time. I wish extract kits came in smaller sizes, like 3 or even 1 gallon kits. Oh well, I know plenty of people who would be willing to help dispose of my excess homebrew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taerom View Post
    I know several people (through my microbiology club) who actively brew their own beer and wine.
    I don't doubt it. It's just a hobby that fades as far as I can tell. Coffee is truly for life.

    Another plus for coffee vs homebrew is the volume of stuff you're left with finding storage for. A nice burr grinder still just goes in a cabinet, unlike a 5g carboy or 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taerom View Post
    depends on what you're trying to "enhance"
    Beer Goggles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taerom View Post
    a Braun whirly blade grinder...
    Oh dear.

    That's not a grinder in the same way a chainsaw isn't a haircutter. I mean you can... but the results aren't going to be what anyone had in mind.

    The grinder you mentioned should be fine. The usual entry level grinder of choice
    is the Barazta; it's not much more than the one you mentioned.
    http://mattscoffee.com/product_info....cb4823ddae6cf4

    I'm sure either would be fine. I linked you to Matt because he uses an ancient Italian wood fired coffee roaster that makes a fine coffee.
    We are as gods, we might as well get good at it.
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