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    Quote Originally Posted by bikebuddha View Post
    THe best thing about the DE 50 is that if you're out of bullets you can beat someone to death with the monster.
    +1

    My buddy has an old LAR Grizzly that we have shot a few times. .45 WinMag with ++P handloads makes a hellacious roar at an indoor range. The muzzle flash is about the size of a pumpkin.

    Nothing worse than getting your self set-up at a lane on the range and some guy pulls up in lane to your left and starts pounding away with a big-caliber semi that's throwing brass all over you.

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    reminds me of a *** nut security guard I worked with years ago who brought in a sawed off shot *** he'd bought....and attached a scope too as well. Think about that for a second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingTermite View Post
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    reminds me of a *** nut security guard I worked with years ago who brought in a sawed off shot *** he'd bought....and attached a scope too as well. Think about that for a second.
    That could actually work alright if it was set up with a good barrel. Especially if the stock was still intact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigander View Post
    That could actually work alright if it was set up with a good barrel. Especially if the stock was still intact.
    I'm not *** nut, but if I understand the concept of a sawed off shot *** right, then all you really have to do is aim the *** in the correct hemisphere to hit you target. Do you really need a scope to pinpoint the hemisphere? How bad of a shot must you be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingTermite View Post
    I'm not *** nut, but if I understand the concept of a sawed off shot *** right, then all you really have to do is aim the *** in the correct hemisphere to hit you target. Do you really need a scope to pinpoint the hemisphere? How bad of a shot must you be?
    If the barrel is *****d, or if proper *****d slugs are used, it could still be pretty accurate.

    The biggest problems with a sawed off are velocity, especially if the barrel is under 10" which will make it subsonic not to mention really loud, and accuracy with buckshot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigander View Post
    If the barrel is *****d, or if proper *****d slugs are used, it could still be pretty accurate.

    The biggest problems with a sawed off are velocity, especially if the barrel is under 10" which will make it subsonic not to mention really loud, and accuracy with buckshot.
    buckshot with a sawed off? why? Might as well throw a handful of marbles at whatever your target is.

    With a sawed off, BB shot is probably your best bet. As you stated, velocity will be reduced. The shot pattern will be wide, and well, you aren't going to do a lot of damage if the target is further than 10m or so. But it will scare the hell out of whatever you are shooting at.
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    They did a test in small arms review a while back where they kept sawing 2" off and charting the results as they went. Found that accuracy didn't suffer as much as you might think it would, even with a teensy barrel, but that the velocity goes down severely after you get below 10" or so.

    Think about it, a cylinder bore is a cylinder bore, even when it gets shorter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigander View Post
    They did a test in small arms review a while back where they kept sawing 2" off and charting the results as they went. Found that accuracy didn't suffer as much as you might think it would, even with a teensy barrel, but that the velocity goes down severely after you get below 10" or so.

    Think about it, a cylinder bore is a cylinder bore, even when it gets shorter.
    still a cylinder, yes. But the wad/shot begins spreading as soon as it leaves the barrel. Shorter barrel = quicker spread. And yes, you will have a huge loss in velocity. And Scatter guns really don't have that high of a velocity to begin with. I think #8 birdshot is usually around 1200 fps with a full length barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    Why?
    Dear God, Why?
    Cause its fun!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamDaBikinMan View Post
    Cause its fun!!!
    yeah...breaking your wrist with a handheld .600 sounds like fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingTermite View Post
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    reminds me of a *** nut security guard I worked with years ago who brought in a sawed off shot *** he'd bought....and attached a scope too as well. Think about that for a second.
    Maybe he needed reading glasses? You don't want to shoot the wrong person if you cannot make out facial features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
    yeah...breaking your wrist with a handheld .600 sounds like fun.
    Its definitely fun to watch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamDaBikinMan View Post
    Maybe he needed reading glasses? You don't want to shoot the wrong person if you cannot make out facial features.
    This reply makes no sense.


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    - it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post

    .50 Desert Eagle vs his wife...

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    if that's not a portrait of white trash ameruka, i don't know what is.

    just sayin'

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    So an Israeli *** which I've seen most often owned by blacks is a portrait of white trash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigander View Post
    So an Israeli *** which I've seen most often owned by blacks is a portrait of white trash?
    You don't actually think he is talking about the ***, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigander View Post
    So an Israeli *** which I've seen most often owned by blacks is a portrait of white trash?
    when it comes to your toys, you really don't know when to STFU, do you?

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    Just trying to gain an understanding of what you were talking about. As usual when you reply to me, what you are saying seems to be full of hatred and contempt.

    Why are you such an angry person?
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    quit bickering in my thread, and get off of my lawn while you're at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmore View Post
    quit bickering in my thread, and get off of my lawn while you're at it.

    git yer *** and chase'em outa dodge
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluevelo View Post
    OK.... the first thing that came to my mind on seeing the title to this thread was "BFG 9000".

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    Funny story ravenmore.

    I shot a titanium relvolver a while back, I think it was a .357. Normally .357's are benign but this thing wanted to jump right out of your hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfmckenna View Post
    I shot a titanium relvolver a while back, I think it was a .357. Normally .357's are benign but this thing wanted to jump right out of your hands.
    That's because it's too darn light to have any momentum. I don't like super-light *******s because it's difficult to be accurate with successive shots. Then again, I don't like super-heavy *******s because it's difficult to be accurate with successive shots.

    It's a balance between re-aim speed and, well, re-aim speed. A *** that is too light can be targeted quickly, but will get way off course with recoil. A *** that is too heavy can't be targeted quickly, but won't get too far off course (compared to the super-light ***).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehidle View Post
    There's a happy medium for everything..
    And for me, that's a race-tuned but still limited class 1911. But we don't get CCW here in the People's Republic, so my choice is an easy one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbossman View Post
    And for me, that's a race-tuned but still limited class 1911. But we don't get CCW here in the People's Republic, so my choice is an easy one.
    +1

    And I'll be quite happy with my Ruger Bisley-Vaquero, .357 Mag, old-school notched sight, wheel ***.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigander View Post
    Just trying to gain an understanding of what you were talking about. As usual when you reply to me, what you are saying seems to be full of hatred and contempt.

    Why are you such an angry person?
    you're funny.

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