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  • yes, it exists and can be found...(post links, please)

    8 24.24%
  • no, it never existed because...(post reasons, please)

    11 33.33%
  • Yes, but only in the minds of idealistic professors and naive students

    9 27.27%
  • Quail, jerky, pie, wth is this doing in foo?

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    Honest, objective and neutral journalism?

    Exists/existed or wishful thinking?
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    take it to the 250.

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    Fox and MSNBC are party television, don't bother going there.

    Fox fans will say that anything that isn't Fox is liberal pansy journalism.

    Objective reporting can be found at News Hour w/ Jim Lehrer, and quality interviews can be found with Diane Rehm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by substructure View Post
    I would watch the local news if it was the muppet newsflash. In a hearbeat.

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    Someones gotta say it....................

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    No gnews, is good gnews....with Gary Gnu!!!

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    - it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.

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    There is no such thing. Every reporter (actually, every person) has a viewpoint and a bias. That viewpoint will carry over to their reporting. There is no way to avoid it.

    There has never been such a thing. If you look at historical newspapers, you'll find all the political reporting carries a bias for 1 side or another, based on the views of the editor in charge.
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    That's the news and I am outta here!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by coffeecake View Post
    - it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreggy View Post
    Fox and MSNBC are party television, don't bother going there.

    Fox fans will say that anything that isn't Fox is liberal pansy journalism.

    Objective reporting can be found at News Hour w/ Jim Lehrer, and quality interviews can be found with Diane Rehm.
    That's biased too. However, if you agree with the bias, you may not notice it as much as someone that disagrees with it.

    As I said, there is no unbiased coverage. The closest that can be achieved is factual reporting of specific incidents. But even that is often biased to one side or the other.
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    Does honest, objective and neutral journalism exist?
    Does honest, objective and neutral journalism consumption exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dewaday View Post
    Does honest, objective and neutral journalism consumption exist?
    Ooooooh.....brilliant observation!
    Quote Originally Posted by coffeecake View Post
    - it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingTermite View Post
    Ooooooh.....brilliant observation!
    Makes the mind spin, doesn't it Grasshop....er Termite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dewaday View Post
    Makes the mind spin, doesn't it Grasshop....er Termite?
    Not so brilliant on your insect recognition skillz though.
    Quote Originally Posted by coffeecake View Post
    - it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.

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    when ad revenue became more important than the editorial, it was all downhill from there

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoelS View Post
    As I said, there is no unbiased coverage. The closest that can be achieved is factual reporting of specific incidents. But even that is often biased to one side or the other.
    Correct. Even the decision of what constitutes news and should be reported is based on the judgment of reporters, owners, and editors and reflects there biases, values, &c.

    Objectivity in media is a myth.

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    I voted for it does exist, but a high-school friend who tried the journalism route, english major, MA in journalism from notable journo school in US, found it easier on his conscience to go into PR, that way everybody knows where he's coming from, even if he doesn't necessarily personally subscribe to the views he's espousing. Or maybe it's that he gets paid better to espouse views he doesn't necessarily personally subscribe to in PR than he would at a newspaper...

    I'm most sensitive to finding unlabeled 'analysis' in what should be just-the-facts 'news' pieces. But there are still plenty of just-the-facts news pieces. It's when they start getting strung together w/ 'explanations' on how they're interrelated that it starts becoming analysis and stops being journalism. As long as they're labeled as such I have no problem w/ that.

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    I think there are degrees. Unbiased news(News Hour) vs biased news (MSNBC) vs propaganda (Fox, Al Jazeera).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spreggy View Post
    I think there are degrees. Unbiased news(News Hour) vs biased news (MSNBC) vs propaganda (Fox, Al Jazeera).
    And see, here's the problem. I find News Hour to be propoganda as well as MSNBC.

    It all falls in to how you view the world, whether the news you like you consider to be unbiased, biased, or propoganda.

    As was beautifully pointed out, not only is there no unbiased news, there are no unbiased news consumers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingTermite View Post
    That's the news and I am outta here!!!

    post a pic of an idiotic political pundit. nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    post a pic of an idiotic political pundit. nice.
    Woosh!!!


    That's the sound of the joke going over your head.

    The picture is not Dennis Miller the idiotic political pundit; it's Dennis Miller when he was the anchor of Weekend update on Saturday Night Live.

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    NPR is as close as I've found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SingingSabre View Post
    NPR is as close as I've found.
    pretty much.
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    For the most part, I have found that only unbiased news sources about a country's events are usually by another country's news, where they don't have a stake in what happened. For example, Germany has decently objective news about US politics.

    The thing about news, you end up grabbing what people have as propaganda for and against, overlay the two mentally, and you come out with some sort of what really is going on.

    Objective journalism with newspapers is almost dead. A lot of newspapers either just buy AP wire stories, write fawning articles over the latest celebrity, or write about the latest iPod as opposed to hiring reports for local scoops (which a lot of people go out of the way to buy papers for.) Then the papers wonder why they find themselves irrelevant. Same with news radio stations who just relay news from some central station, with little or no interest in the city they are in.

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