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Old 05-22-04, 10:48 PM   #1
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Do you hope you die before you get old?

I'm sure we all recognize this classic line from a classic song. It got me thinking -- I can't ever picture myself confined to a hospital bed, or all sorts of medical equipment... or any other of the list of things that can impede your everday life.



So.. do you hope you die before you get old? This doesnt mean before you turn a set age.. it just means before you can't do the things you truely love? Or would you continue on with whatever you can possibly do?




Me? I sure do hope I die before I get old! >=) Daltry would be proud.
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I plan to get old, stay spry, and get meaner
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That depends how you define "old". There are a lot of people out there (including some who regularly post on this forum) who might be considered "old" in terms of their age, but I don't think too many of them are confined to a hospital bed. On the other hand, I know of people younger than I am who cannot physically do many of the things that I do, or that any of these "old" people I was referring to can do.

You know, it's pretty pointless to speculate on this sort of thing. Nobody can speculate on the hand that life will deal out tomorrow, next week, or in 10 years' time. Nobody can speculate on how they will feel when/if a certain time in their lives comes. I mean, even if you are confined to a hospital bed, there are still ways to obtain enjoyment from life. After death, there is nothing. Perhaps it is this that gives people to motivation to continue when things seem hopeless.

Personally, I intend to continue doing the things I love for as long as I can, or as long as I continue to obtain enjoyment from them. After that, I will make a decision based on how I feel then. I suspect that many others will ultimately do the same thing, even if their plans are different at the present time.
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Oh yeah, I don't recognise either the line or the song. What is it?
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"Oh yeah, I don't recognise either the line or the song. What is it?"

I believe it's from "My Generation" by the Who.
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Daltry got old-singing about de-generation.
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I want to die with an old mind. I want to die with a young body. turn dem pedals....
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{snip**After death, there is nothing. {/snip**
And you know this how?
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I don't. Nor do I care to find out in the near future.
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At any moment, any of us can find ourselves in an entirely new life situation. It is how we handle these situations, not what we can or can't do, that makes us REAL men and women.

My oldest son, on his 21st birthday, broke his cervical vertebrae at the C-4. C-5 level in a sports accident, which means he was/is totally paralyzed from the shoulders down.

After flying 1,500 miles to see him in the hospital, he told me, "Dad, I guess I have some new challenges in life."

Still totally paralyzed, he went on to graduate with highest honors in math and economics, and applied to and was accepted at Stanford Law School. He graduated in 3 years (which included a clerkship in Los Angeles and Washington, DC) and went to work for the number one law firm in Washington, DC.

He met his future wife there (a Yale Law School graduate) and eventualy they moved back to Denver, where after a couple of years they started their own law practice.

Now they specialize in civil rights and discrimination law and have cases in many states. They are nationally known, and they both are featured speakers at law conferences, and fly around the country. They have been on television and in the newspaper many times.

I could say about the same thing of my second son, born profoundly mentally handicapped, who also fell and broke his back (a result of undiagnosed severe osteoporosis) and, fortunately, through physical therapy and a good surgeon, is now about 95% walking again. He also met his challenge head-on, and participated and workes SO HARD to get going again.

Both have extremely satisfying lives. They have found interests and challenges in life different from what they might have originally wanted or expected; but, they are both contributing to the world and find great satisfactions in what they do.

It is not the problems that life challenges you with, and this includes getting old, as we all will. It is how you meet those problems.

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I ride with too many spry older cyclists..Life gets better when you have the time not to worry about crappy jobs and other life hassles that deprive you of what you really want to do.
One friend just retired last year. has the body of a 20 year old and just got back from crossing the U.S.
That is what the older years should be like.. I would hope to have the time to be the fittest ever..
Besides, many of us have too much money in pension funds...I want to collect.
When life is no longer worth it at 90 plus, then time to go to Amsterdam, Netherlands and exit just like Edward G. Robinson did in the movie Solyent Green...Why bother with suffering when it is time to be a drag on yourself and others. Sounds like a good plan to me... Mean while stay young and ride.
a ps- any one see this months' "Bicycling Magazine.." Features a 90 year old that can whip your butt in a time trial...
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I fully intend to be one of those individuals who lives to 100 and is sharp as a tack until the last seconds. While not cyclists, my heroes include Richard Avedon and Irving Penn. Dudes are awesome and still at it long after most people would have given up the camera. And I bet Bert Stern would still be at it if he hadn't committed suicide...

So yeah, screw death. If I check out before I hit triple digits, I'll feel rather gyped.
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So.. do you hope you die before you get old? This doesnt mean before you turn a set age.. it just means before you can't do the things you truely love? Or would you continue on with whatever you can possibly do?
Good Lord, no. I've lived through a variety of catastrophes in 52 years, none of them have diminished my desire to get the chance to live through a lot more catastrophes, and I'd love to see what the year 2051 looks like (at which point I'd be 100 years old).

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Old 05-23-04, 09:26 PM   #14
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I'm sure we all recognize this classic line from a classic song. It got me thinking -- I can't ever picture myself confined to a hospital bed, or all sorts of medical equipment... or any other of the list of things that can impede your everday life.
Good point.

The old joke goes, "If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself."

Still, you can't be in control of everything. No matter how well you take care of yourself, something can happen to mess it up.

You just have to have a view of life that will sustain you through tough times and good times, as well as keep you as healthy as possible in the mean time.
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Well, first off, if you're looking to make Daltry proud, you're wasting your time. He's in the music BUSINESS, he is not a prophet or cult leader. Anyone can write lyrics that stimulate the minds of teenagers. That is how they sell so many records.

But if you must know, I am playing it by ear. If it were up to me, I'd die of a heart attack while running or biking. However, I'm only 32 and another 30-50 years is a long ways off. No telling what will happen then, if I make it.
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WOW! All I can say is that your posting and your children are an incredible inspiration. You must be proud. What a way to start my Monday.



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At any moment, any of us can find ourselves in an entirely new life situation. It is how we handle these situations, not what we can or can't do, that makes us REAL men and women.

My oldest son, on his 21st birthday, broke his cervical vertebrae at the C-4. C-5 level in a sports accident, which means he was/is totally paralyzed from the shoulders down.

After flying 1,500 miles to see him in the hospital, he told me, "Dad, I guess I have some new challenges in life."

Still totally paralyzed, he went on to graduate with highest honors in math and economics, and applied to and was accepted at Stanford Law School. He graduated in 3 years (which included a clerkship in Los Angeles and Washington, DC) and went to work for the number one law firm in Washington, DC.

He met his future wife there (a Yale Law School graduate) and eventualy they moved back to Denver, where after a couple of years they started their own law practice.

Now they specialize in civil rights and discrimination law and have cases in many states. They are nationally known, and they both are featured speakers at law conferences, and fly around the country. They have been on television and in the newspaper many times.

I could say about the same thing of my second son, born profoundly mentally handicapped, who also fell and broke his back (a result of undiagnosed severe osteoporosis) and, fortunately, through physical therapy and a good surgeon, is now about 95% walking again. He also met his challenge head-on, and participated and workes SO HARD to get going again.

Both have extremely satisfying lives. They have found interests and challenges in life different from what they might have originally wanted or expected; but, they are both contributing to the world and find great satisfactions in what they do.

It is not the problems that life challenges you with, and this includes getting old, as we all will. It is how you meet those problems.

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I'll be old(er) when I die, but hopefully not grown up.
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I'm already old so it's too late for me.
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I am having a heck of a lot more fun now nearing 50 than I ever did in my twenties. Wouldn't trade it for anything. Old is a frame of mind I wonder how Daltry feels about it now?
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