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Old 06-01-09, 07:22 PM   #251
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All the gear all the time.

The alternative is the road taking its pound of flesh from your face and body:

I wear a full face helmet. Jeans at least. Always. Leather jacket and nylon ballistic riding pants when it's not over 80.

I subscribe to the 'you only get one chance to crash and it may be your last' school of motorcycling. I don't plan on surviving a crash, so I try not to crash.
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I wear a full face helmet. Jeans at least. Always. Leather jacket and nylon ballistic riding pants when it's not over 80.

I subscribe to the 'you only get one chance to crash and it may be your last' school of motorcycling. I don't plan on surviving a crash, so I try not to crash.
Do you believe the "had to lay it down" guys ?
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Do you believe the "had to lay it down" guys ?
Yes. I believe if you 'have to lay it down' you wind up here:



I try to ride bearing this likelihood in mind.
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A little rain does not get you really wet.
I've ridden the ST in torrential downpours. Once you start going over 40 mph, the rain becomes horizontal and the front fairing/windscreen keeps you amazingly dry.
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I try to ride bearing this likelihood in mind.
Ive crashed on the road twice. Basically, it happens so fast you dont
have a choice in anything. You're riding. You're on the ground, bike
40' away......Mine were at only 35mph or so, and unmotorcycley enuff,
it wasnt "THE F&%^$ %%$ CAGERS FAULT"........ All me
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I've ridden the ST in torrential downpours. Once you start going over 40 mph, the rain becomes horizontal and the front fairing/windscreen keeps you amazingly dry.
And then you stop
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And then you stop
You have to be an idiot to ride a motorcycle in the first place. You have to be a certifiably insane idiot to ride in the pouring rain.

Sometimes it's unavoidable.
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You have to be an idiot to ride a motorcycle in the first place. You have to be a certifiably insane idiot to ride in the pouring rain.

Sometimes it's unavoidable.
I commute on the moto in the pouring rain, in the fog, in the dark, etc. Where's my certificate?
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I commute on the moto in the pouring rain, in the fog, in the dark, etc. Where's my certificate?
In motorcycling, you don't want one. It generally looks like this:

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I commute on the moto in the pouring rain, in the fog, in the dark, etc. Where's my certificate?
If you stop to put on yer helmet and shoes its OK. Not too bad.
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I've totalled one bike an walked away with just a twisted ankle. Crashing isn't inherently dangerous, it's the obstacles in your way that tend to kill you.
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If you stop to put on yer helmet and shoes its OK. Not too bad.


I have waterproof textile gear and a heated jacket liner and heated grips so I'm usually reasonably comfortable (my gloves and neck scarf are the only non-waterproof bits on me).

The main issues are visibility and all the crap (tree branches, rock slides, etc) that gets knocked onto the road.

Oh, and drizzle makes tar snakes super slippery.
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Oh, and drizzle makes tar snakes super slippery.
And the painted lines too.

I feel much safer on wet roads on the ST with the big triple ABS disc brakes than on my racing bicycle with the crappy rim brakes and the 3 square mm of tire contact patch.
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I've totalled one bike an walked away with just a twisted ankle. Crashing isn't inherently dangerous, it's the obstacles in your way that tend to kill you.

Both times I crashed, What hurt the most, relatively speaking, was my back !
I was so pumped with adrenaline that when I came to and got my wits together
I picked up the bike wrong. Instead of backing up to it, I bent over and
yanked it up to get it off the road and out of the puddle of gas. Both
were Harleys, so it was some serious heft, but at the time, they felt as
light as bicycles.
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And the painted lines too.

I feel much safer on wet roads on the ST with the big triple ABS disc brakes than on my racing bicycle with the crappy rim brakes and the 3 square mm of tire contact patch.
Toll Booths... The worst !!! Very dangerous !!!!!
The same goes for regions that have lots of heating oil trucks.
They leave a big sploodge spot on the road at each house.
Oil and rubber. Not a good recipe for traction or staying uprite
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Rain isn't as dangerous as most people think. I was at an event that Buell used to sponsor which is like autocross for bikes and it was raining out. I figured they were going to cancel it but I trucked up there anyways. When I first got there, some of these guys were scraping pegs in the rain. After riding the course for about 2-3 times, I got comfortable and was getting just as low.

That was probably one of the best things I've ever done to help with my skills as a rider.
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Rain isn't as dangerous as most people think. I was at an event that Buell used to sponsor which is like autocross for bikes and it was raining out. I figured they were going to cancel it but I trucked up there anyways. When I first got there, some of these guys were scraping pegs in the rain. After riding the course for about 2-3 times, I got comfortable and was getting just as low.

That was probably one of the best things I've ever done to help with my skills as a rider.
Do you know the BadWeatherBikers site

I love Buells !!!

I think riding dirt did it for me...I grew up a dirtball and then competed later.
Nothing hones bike skills like dirt time. !! Mud / rocks / water and lots and lots
of falling !! A big difference is use of brakes....in off-road situations you
try to avoid using your brakes and rely on WFO and fate to get you through/over
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I hate the new buells. The last one I liked was the 1200cc lighting. When they changed them up and dropped the engine size, they lost their balls. It went from being able to bring the front wheel up at 4k rpm to not being able to at all. Maybe the new ones with the rotax engines are better.
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V-twins.
Those motors seem awfully antiquated and chuggy compared to the civilized horizontally opposed smoother-than-silk 4 on the ST. But then the whole sound of the motorcycle loud pipes Harley thing does nothing for me at all, and I know many m/c dudes love all that. I just like to ride, and I like to do it without a sore back and without the busted eardrums if at all possible.
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Those motors seem awfully antiquated and chuggy compared to the civilized horizontally opposed smoother-than-silk 4 on the ST. But then the whole sound of the motorcycle loud pipes Harley thing does nothing for me at all, and I know many m/c dudes love all that. I just like to ride, and I like to do it without a sore back and without the busted eardrums if at all possible.
Not everyone wants a boring 4 cylinder. Or even that torquey GL 6 cylinder. I have two v-twins. One is smooth, quiet, and rather boring. The other is louder, rougher, but more powerful. After having the Goldwing, I enjoy a motorcycle that feels like a motorcycle, not a two-wheeled Escalade. And my girlfriend prefers the Harley too.
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