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Old 07-14-10, 08:09 AM   #1301
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If you're riding on tight twisty roads, a 250 will probably do better than a liter bike (ridden by someone of equivalent skills/experience). Big open roads or freeways are a different story of course.
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Old 07-14-10, 08:30 AM   #1302
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If you're riding on tight twisty roads, a 250 will probably do better than a liter bike (ridden by someone of equivalent skills/experience). Big open roads or freeways are a different story of course.
I'd like to think that my tandem MTB skills helped me adapt to a 1.8 liter bike in the twisties, but I suppose most of the credit goes to Honda engineers.

On that note, we're considering another Goldwing.
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depends on what you ride. I've actually looked at getting a little 250 for commuting on. They supposedly get around 75-80 mpg.
If I were to buy a 250 cc street bike today, there would be only one choice: the Suzuki TU-250.

PS: My Aprilia Scarabeo 500 maxi-scooter gets around 60-65 MPG for my commute.

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I disagree. A Ninja 250 is lightweight and with enough power to get you in plenty of trouble. Especially in the mountains where riding is fun. It's getting closer to reaching its limits on the freeway, though it's still perfectly capable of sitting in the fast lane all day if you're so inclined. But freeway riding is dreadfully boring.

Also, 60-70 MPG and $50 a year to insure. If it's a toy, it's a cheap one.
Ok...I should have said, "a toy in comparison to a 1 liter or more".

Man, some people take their dinosaur powered bikes seriously.
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Old 07-14-10, 10:31 AM   #1305
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Also, 60-70 MPG and $50 a year to insure. If it's a toy, it's a cheap one.
It's that cheap to insure if you're not 19.
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Old 07-14-10, 11:05 AM   #1306
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But that's okay, because 19 year olds ride GSX-Rs anyway.
I spoke to an ex-cop (my wife and I had my ex and her husband over for dinner) and he was telling me that pulling over younger guys on sport bikes was a sure thing. They usually had either no license, or no motorcycle license, and no insurance. The fact that they are many times unregistered was also a bonus. If you are young and on a sport bike, the odds are stacked against you.
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If you're riding on tight twisty roads, a 250 will probably do better than a liter bike (ridden by someone of equivalent skills/experience). Big open roads or freeways are a different story of course.
So True. There is a guy in Santa Cruz mountains that rides 250 by choice (you might know him), he can ride circles around most everyone up there.
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Old 07-14-10, 01:57 PM   #1308
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So True. There is a guy in Santa Cruz mountains that rides 250 by choice (you might know him), he can ride circles around most everyone up there.
I've always wanted to ride my Honda Rebel to Santa Cruz. Highway 17 makes me a trifle nervous though.
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I've always wanted to ride my Honda Rebel to Santa Cruz. Highway 17 makes me a trifle nervous though.
Why would you take 17 there are so many other funner ways of getting there!
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I've always wanted to ride my Honda Rebel to Santa Cruz. Highway 17 makes me a trifle nervous though.
I've ridden all around these mountains and the rest of the bay area and I haven't ridden on 17, no interest in doing so. I've never seen so much bad driving in one place as on there.
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Old 07-14-10, 04:26 PM   #1311
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Why would you take 17 there are so many other funner ways of getting there!
Hmmm...actually I never really thought about an alternate route. Time to start browsing Google Maps!
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Hmmm...actually I never really thought about an alternate route. Time to start browsing Google Maps!
Lots of good options but be aware that there are currently some road closures on 9 between Felton and Santa Cruz.
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Old 07-14-10, 09:45 PM   #1313
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Lots of good options but be aware that there are currently some road closures on 9 between Felton and Santa Cruz.
Good to know. Thanks!
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Yeah, 17 isn't the most exciting road in the area. It always feels like a commute, even if you aren't.

The only time it was exciting was several years ago when I was driving 17:
a) For the first time.
b) In the second-heaviest rain I've ever seen.
c) At night.
d) In my 1985 Buick Skylark, with its 80 HP wunderengine and 3-speed slushomatic. It was giving all it had (cap'n), and I was managing about 40 MPH up some of the slopes.

But that's not the same kind of excitement.
Haha, my main reason for going into the mountains is for photography. Options are always nice
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Old 07-14-10, 11:36 PM   #1315
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Haha, my main reason for going into the mountains is for photography. Options are always nice
Great excuse to explore the mountains.
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Old 07-20-10, 04:16 AM   #1316
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Another motorcyclist commits suicide. That's the fourth motorcyclist killed without automotive assistance up here in two weeks.

Do us all a favor. Don't worry about the cagers you idiots. Just try not to ride into the weeds or a guardrail at high speed. You know, I'm starting to think motorcycling has more imbeciles than cycling. And that's saying something right there.

I do both. Let that be your guide.
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Old 07-20-10, 04:31 PM   #1317
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I sold my motorcycle last spring for a mountain bike. All I can say is it was the best decision ever. I mean motorcycles are awesome, but there's still too many cars on the road for me. Once gas hits $5/gallon I'll buy one again. I've owned two motorcycles in my short life and I can honestly say they are one of the most enjoyable things ever. My first was a Yamaha 600XT(dual-sport), really smooth ride, and lots of low end power. If I ever do get another motorcycle, it will be a dual-sport. I'm good with my bicycles for now. At least with bicycles, I can afford the best of both worlds, on and off road.


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But that's okay, because 19 year olds ride GSX-Rs anyway.

And by that logic, all old people ride harley's. AmIrite?

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And by that logic, all old people ride harley's. AmIrite?
Of course not. Our own patentcad rides a tank on two wheels, that is not a harley.
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Of course not. Our own patentcad rides a tank on two wheels, that is not a harley.
If you even had a glimmer of what you were talking about, you still wouldn't.
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If you even had a glimmer of what you were talking about, you still wouldn't.

Lazyboy with wheels?
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Old 07-22-10, 10:41 AM   #1321
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You know, I'm starting to think motorcycling has more imbeciles than cycling. And that's saying something right there.
I think you're right about that. The potential for self inflicted damage is a lot higher with motorcycles too, regardless if it's due to youth and overexuberance or old age and diminished skills/reflexes.
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Lazyboy with wheels?
More like a cross between a crotch rocket, a barco lounger, and an all weather fighter.




In other words, the perfect motorcycle.
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I think you're right about that. The potential for self inflicted damage is a lot higher with motorcycles too, regardless if it's due to youth and overexuberance or old age and diminished skills/reflexes.
Unfortunately, Darwin isn't working fast or severe enough to cull the idiots amongst motorcyclists...
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