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    Stupid wireless!

    I keep losing the signal from my own home wireless network

    I have a cable based ISP, with a wireless router connected to the modem. I'm like 6 feet away from the router, and my laptop can't 'see' it sometimes.

    I'm getting ready to buy another laptop (giving my current one to the teen), and wondering if I shouldn't just pick up a new router as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    I keep losing the signal from my own home wireless network

    I have a cable based ISP, with a wireless router connected to the modem. I'm like 6 feet away from the router, and my laptop can't 'see' it sometimes.

    I'm getting ready to buy another laptop (giving my current one to the teen), and wondering if I shouldn't just pick up a new router as well.
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    It can't hurt to buy another router. A new router usually has a better range, more security (WPA2 is the standard, WPA is the minimum.) A Linksys WRT400N or a WRT54G is good. If you are an Apple person, the Airport Extreme or a Time Capsule is always decent.

    It is nice to use wireless, but if a laptop is pretty much sessile and plugged into a monitor and keyboard, I'd recommend a cable -- less stuff to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlts22 View Post
    It can't hurt to buy another router. A new router usually has a better range, more security (WPA2 is the standard, WPA is the minimum.) A Linksys WRT400N or a WRT54G is good. If you are an Apple person, the Airport Extreme or a Time Capsule is always decent.

    It is nice to use wireless, but if a laptop is pretty much sessile and plugged into a monitor and keyboard, I'd recommend a cable -- less stuff to worry about.
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    You could have fired the circut on your card. Can you connect to a nighbors netowork? Try disabling the encryption on yours. Restart your computer. Try connecting to it with a different computer. Your router may be shot ( I have gone through 5 in the past year (all linksys)) my new dlink has had no problems. What is your isp if it is comcast it sometimes has problems with linksys's default subnet on the Private netowrk. Also try the channel change from 11 to 6. Try a reset of the router. Change home network to 192.168.2.1 and that way you will not have conflicts with nework.

    There are many more things to try that I can guide you to if you give me the required info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ride4Ever View Post
    You could have fired the circut on your card. Can you connect to a nighbors netowork? Try disabling the encryption on yours. Restart your computer. Try connecting to it with a different computer. Your router may be shot ( I have gone through 5 in the past year (all linksys)) my new dlink has had no problems. What is your isp if it is comcast it sometimes has problems with linksys's default subnet on the Private netowrk. Also try the channel change from 11 to 6. Try a reset of the router. Change home network to 192.168.2.1 and that way you will not have conflicts with nework.

    There are many more things to try that I can guide you to if you give me the required info.

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    Well, my ISP is Cox Communications. I can (and have) gained internet access through other unsecured networks. The router has been reset a couple of times, when my wife is having issues w/her Dell.

    I don't know if it's just a config problem or what, but it only does this when mutiple networks are available. When I log on to the school's wifi, I don't get booted off of the network. But at home I do.

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    It's probably your router then. My Dlink did something similar so I replaced it with a Linksys and have had no problems since. You don't need a super expensive one, the $40 ones work well.
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    We went for the HomePlug, it uses existing electricity cabling as LAN. It's not quite as flexible as wireless, but very close. Basically it turns every electrical plug in the house to an Ethernet connection point. You'll still need cable and an adapter to connect the computer to the wall outlet.

    My DVD recorder has reset itself a couple of times since, but I don't know for sure if it's related to the "noise" of the network traffic. I'm going to put a surge protected extension cord between the recorder and the wall outlet nevertheless. Other than that, it's been sweet.

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    +1 on new router

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    Yes, from my friend that makes our local telco work, "You only use wireless when it is physically impossible to run wire." Wireless is less secure, slower and wonky.

    If you do buy a new router, get one with wired ports along with wireless. You can plug in when it's convenient and still be able to roam with a laptop.
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    If you are seeing this occur typically when more networks are available, then it is most likely an interference problem. You are not seeing the problem at your school because the network at your school is not having interference from "home" based networks and the Cisco APs that they are most likely using are more powerful to drown out the signal anyway. Definitely try changing your channel like Ride4Ever stated and make sure that you are only connecting to preferred networks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    Well, my ISP is Cox Communications. I can (and have) gained internet access through other unsecured networks. The router has been reset a couple of times, when my wife is having issues w/her Dell.

    I don't know if it's just a config problem or what, but it only does this when mutiple networks are available. When I log on to the school's wifi, I don't get booted off of the network. But at home I do.
    If this only happens when other networks are available then the problem is likely interference. Try using a different channel; use only channels 1, 6, or 11 because the other channels are more likely to experience interference.

    Consumer level routers also tend to run hot; make sure that there's enough ventilation around the router and it's kept in a cool area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    Well, my ISP is Cox Communications. I can (and have) gained internet access through other unsecured networks. The router has been reset a couple of times, when my wife is having issues w/her Dell.

    I don't know if it's just a config problem or what, but it only does this when mutiple networks are available. When I log on to the school's wifi, I don't get booted off of the network. But at home I do.
    It may be that your laptop is connecting to one of the "unsecured" networks available. My own laptop does this occasionally latching onto one of the networks in area and ignoring my own.

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    Well, the router must be fried. I hooked a ethernet cable to it from the laptop. It found the network and promptly lost it.

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    Since there are no new generations of wireless coming down the pipe, new routers tend to offer either more features, or work on trying to make the most out of existing signal, from multiple antennas, to more connections. As always, the newer the router, the better the security.

    I hope one of these days, someone makes a router that can actually do failover capabilities. It would normally route traffic to the cable or DSL link, but if that gets cut, it would use EDGE, 3G, CDMA, or whatever cellular protocol to transparently redirect Internet traffic until the main line is fixed. Yes, this would be slower, but it beats no Internet connection at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    Well, the router must be fried. I hooked a ethernet cable to it from the laptop. It found the network and promptly lost it.
    I think you are probably right. If you plug the cable from the modem directly to your computer (bypassing the router), does it work? If so, get a new router.

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    Another comment here about possibly simple interference being the issue.

    I had an issue where my wireless signal stopped working. I realized it was because I put the router behind dual CRT monitors in order to tidy-up my desk space. I then mounted the router on the wall and my wireless signal has never been better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    Well, my ISP is Cox Communications. I can (and have) gained internet access through other unsecured networks. The router has been reset a couple of times, when my wife is having issues w/her Dell.
    I don't know if it's just a config problem or what, but it only does this when mutiple networks are available. When I log on to the school's wifi, I don't get booted off of the network. But at home I do.
    Call Cox and have them replace the router. It's part of your service.

    I have Cox. I'm sitting maybe 50 feet from my router and the signla strength is at the "Excellent" level. I'm also seeing 5 other networks and there's no conflict.
    You're just trying to start an argument to show how smart you are.

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    Check the quality of both the wireless router AND your laptop's wireless card, the quality of the signal can vary a lot. I have an HP with a super-powerful wifi card, the PCMCIA card I have does about 1/10th as well as the internal card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
    Call Cox and have them replace the router. It's part of your service.

    I have Cox. I'm sitting maybe 50 feet from my router and the signla strength is at the "Excellent" level. I'm also seeing 5 other networks and there's no conflict.
    I have Cox and I think I would have to pay separately for them to provide me a wireless router.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanSeven View Post
    Call Cox and have them replace the router. It's part of your service.

    I have Cox. I'm sitting maybe 50 feet from my router and the signla strength is at the "Excellent" level. I'm also seeing 5 other networks and there's no conflict.
    Quote Originally Posted by z415 View Post
    I have Cox and I think I would have to pay separately for them to provide me a wireless router.
    Cox didn't provide my router. I had them install the modem. I would have done the self install kit, but I had to have a tech out to run the cable to my house from their junction box anyway. The router was selected/installed by my wife, who is more qualified when it comes to electronics of any kind. (RIF'ed out of the Navy under Clinton, where she was an ET-3, has a degree from ITT in Computer and Electronic Engineering).

    When my laptop does access the home network, the signal is excellent, but it is just a matter of time before the laptop disconnects. Sometimes it will switch automatically to another network, other times I have to connect manually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    Cox didn't provide my router. I had them install the modem. I would have done the self install kit, but I had to have a tech out to run the cable to my house from their junction box anyway. The router was selected/installed by my wife, who is more qualified when it comes to electronics of any kind. (RIF'ed out of the Navy under Clinton, where she was an ET-3, has a degree from ITT in Computer and Electronic Engineering).

    When my laptop does access the home network, the signal is excellent, but it is just a matter of time before the laptop disconnects. Sometimes it will switch automatically to another network, other times I have to connect manually.
    Err and you're having US troubleshoot this why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    No Apples. A Dell, an Acer, and TBD (prolly a Toshiba).

    Current router is a Belkin. Best Buy giving 50% discounts on D-Links with any laptop purchase.
    Please do not buy a D-Link. Or please don't buy a D-Link and then whine about how inferior it is on here.

    Netgear or Linksys please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrangeWill View Post
    Err and you're having US troubleshoot this why?
    Because, she was given credit for her time in the Navy. There is a whole lot of technical knowledge that she has forgotten, since there was a period of some 8 years where she wasn't working in the electronics field after getting out of the Navy and starting school. After graduating, she still wasn't in the field for about 10 months. Now she's repairing/refurbing cell phones.

    Add to that, the fact that I brought up the idea that the router might be bad. That had never occurred to her. She thought it was on the ISP's end, even though when I contacted Cox about it, they were able to 'ping' my modem just fine.

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