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Old 06-05-09, 07:54 PM   #1
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moving companies, I'm onto you.

  • The ones that won't give binding estimates are probably going to ship yourself to whatever company is taking a truck anywhere. your stuff might disappear, will definitely get manhandled lots, and finally, they could charge you random "ransom" on the other end to get your stuff.
  • The more credible ones that do come for an in-home look and give you a binding estimate but will probably over-estimate on purpose, because they will reimburse you only 1/2 what you paid according to the estimate for underage. IE: They charge you for 3,000 lbs at 70 cents a pound. If the final freight is under the estimate, they reimburse you $30 per 100 pounds. What?

I moved to Denver with 2,100 lbs of stuff. I have the freight bill.
I've gotten rid of A LOT since I've been here (heavy stuff, housewares/dishes, pots, pans).
Haven't been buying stuff.

Moving estimator came and estimate2,600 lbs. I showed him the freight bill from moving here, stating 2,100. He immediately dropped off 300 lbs. Refuses to budge lower than 2300, saying "people usually accumulate stuff". I will be shocked if my stuff weighs much more than 2,000 lbs.

I have two large pieces of furniture I expect to sell next week. He did agree to take those off and we'll sign a new contract.

Have 2 more estimators coming out Monday. We'll see what they say!
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are you sure chipcom and UA aren't hiding inside one of your furnatures?
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I'm lucky, I have so much crap, I could never move.
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are you sure chipcom and UA aren't hiding inside one of your furnatures?
no, not sure at all.
UA might be hiding out for a free ride to the midwest. UA, get out of my drawer!
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no, not sure at all.
UA might be hiding out for a free ride to the midwest. UA, get out of my drawers!
Fixed it for ya.
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I'm lucky, I have so much crap, I could never move.
you are lucky! this will be my 3rd move in < 12 months. I'm hoping its the second to last in a long, LONG time: Its all going to mom's garage, where I will be hiding out in her basement and mooching her furniture for awhile. After I get settled in the new job (+/- 1 month) I'm going to start house-hunting, and hope to find one after about 2 more months. In my perfect world I'd be moving in somewhere permanent sept/oct.
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Don't know if you can do what I did. When I had to move my wife's 'stuff' from her ex's in NC back to OK, I rented a U-Haul trailer. Flat fee, no mileage. California king mattress set, collectibles, washer/dryer, a crap ton of books...

Have you considered just renting a truck and moving yourself? You could get UA to do the grunt work in exchange for that ride to the Midwest..
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Don't know if you can do what I did. When I had to move my wife's 'stuff' from her ex's in NC back to OK, I rented a U-Haul trailer. Flat fee, no mileage. California king mattress set, collectibles, washer/dryer, a crap ton of books...

Have you considered just renting a truck and moving yourself? You could get UA to do the grunt work in exchange for that ride to the Midwest..
I have looked into it. Its almost a wash, actually. Will cost only a couple hundred more to hire a company, which is much less stress. I'm on a very tight deadline to load/move/unload.

Penske and Budget are right around $1,000 for the rental (truck + car trailer), and Uhaul is more. Figuring 6 miles/gallon, it would cost about $400 in gas, plus I'd need a 1-night hotel stay. Moving companies are looking to be $1500-1700, and I could drive myself back in a day (no hotel needed)

If I had much more (weight-wise) or someone to drive my car I would definitely consider it.

I'm also really concerned about putting my car on a trailer (low clearance) and some companies don't even recommend it.
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Have you thought about using these guys? http://www.pods.com/
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I'll take a vacation for a week to move you.

Rent me a truck, a handtruck, and give me 140 dollars a day.

No ... sex cannot be used for currency.
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Unless the moving industry is faring better than the rest of us, they need your business. Don't pay to move what you don't have.
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I did, its on par with the moving quotes I've received, and would be an added hassle of loading/unloading myself, plus-- having to figure out what NOT to put in the pod, because I might need it in the next 3-4 months.

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I'll take a vacation for a week to move you.

Rent me a truck, a handtruck, and give me 140 dollars a day.

No ... sex cannot be used for currency.
thats ok, I don't have any of the sex for offer.

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Unless the moving industry is faring better than the rest of us, they need your business. Don't pay to move what you don't have.
this is just a suspicion, but i think people are still moving around- taking a chance on a better job. sounds like the industry is pretty busy, but then, its also prime moving time.
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Penske and Budget are right around $1,000 for the rental (truck + car trailer), and Uhaul is more. Figuring 6 miles/gallon, it would cost about $400 in gas, plus I'd need a 1-night hotel stay.
6 miles a gallon? Are you renting a semi-truck?

Anyway, you can also cut out the hotel stay, sure it isn't luxury, but it's fiscal conservatism at it's best.
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ABF pack yerself , only, for me. Hire labor off of craigslist to pack

I got absolutely raped by a company called Movers USA with the
the estimating feet vs tare weight stuff they try to get you to commit to.
Even though we had a contract, when the truck came and all the stuff
was on it, the head guy had some reason why the contract was null. I had
to put 1,500 more on a credit card to get them to take it, or pay the agreed
price and they inload it on my driveway. Be very careful, when
researching where I went wrong, I found moving to be about the same as
crack dealing as far as reputable people are involved
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Arti what about the student moving route? I have heard it was a decent deal....never used it myself tho.

http://www.ssmovers.com/
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6 miles a gallon? Are you renting a semi-truck?

Anyway, you can also cut out the hotel stay, sure it isn't luxury, but it's fiscal conservatism at it's best.
6-8mpg is what they recommended I calculate, closer to 6 since I'd be towing a car.
also, don't feel comfortable on a solo 15-hour straight trip :-/ I'm pretty horrid with the long-distance drives. if I had company, it would be no big deal.

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Arti what about the student moving route? I have heard it was a decent deal....never used it myself tho.

http://www.ssmovers.com/
Yeah, I remember looking over that company when I moved out here. Alarmingly low rates, and BBB rating... F!! RUN, RUN!
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6-8mpg is what they recommended I calculate, closer to 6 since I'd be towing a car.
also, don't feel comfortable on a solo 15-hour straight trip :-/ I'm pretty horrid with the long-distance drives. if I had company, it would be no big deal.

Yeah, I remember looking over that company when I moved out here. Alarmingly low rates, and BBB rating... F!! RUN, RUN!
Hold on, IIRC you have a 'manfriend'. Has he not offered to help you?
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That is what you get for moving to CO and meeting up only with UA.
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Hold on, IIRC you have a 'manfriend'. Has he not offered to help you?
well, he's in MN but he definitely has offered to come out. the cost of renting a truck and do-it-myself isnt much cheaper.

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I have looked into it. Its almost a wash, actually. Will cost only a couple hundred more to hire a company, which is much less stress. I'm on a very tight deadline to load/move/unload.

Penske and Budget are right around $1,000 for the rental (truck + car trailer), and Uhaul is more. Figuring 6 miles/gallon, it would cost about $400 in gas, plus I'd need a 1-night hotel stay. Moving companies are looking to be $1500-1700, and I could drive myself back in a day (no hotel needed)

If I had much more (weight-wise) or someone to drive my car I would definitely consider it.

I'm also really concerned about putting my car on a trailer (low clearance) and some companies don't even recommend it.
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That is what you get for moving to CO and meeting up only with UA.
No doubt! I'd leave to if I was the only person I'd met... wait..
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well, he's in MN but he definitely has offered to come out. the cost of renting a truck and do-it-myself isnt much cheaper.
I'd still recommend you DIY.

I've been working in the warehousing/logistics field for over a decade now. The more people that have to touch the 'merchandise' to get it from point A to point B, the greater the odds of either damage or being misplaced.

Your stuff will be like checked luggage at the airport. No guarantee of when/where/how much of/what kind of shape it will arrive in.
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My last moving company experience was very different from artifice's. The company came and made an estimate, but billed based on actual weight. No money up front (maybe a small deposit, I don't remember for sure), just paid after everything was delivered. Sure, they estimated some absurd value, like 3000 pounds. I was free to ship as little or as much as I wanted (the estimate was more for them to be able to guage how much space they'd need to have free on the truck), with a 1000 pound minimum charge. I packed small, dense stuff (books, computer) and a small suitcase into my car, and when moving day came, someone came to take the rest. Based on space used, the guy eyeballed it at 1400 pounds, but he would then go have the trailer weighed to determine the exact weight. The scale showed around 1100 pounds, so my bill was proportionately reduced. Total cost across the country was around $1/pound. It was a very pleasant experience.

Unfortunately, the hugely high American Chemical Society discount was what made the decision practical. We got something like 75% off list price for moving services. (Not sure about packing/unpacking services since I did that myself, and did not ask for a quote.) And there was a direct line to a pleasant customer service rep who dealt with ACS members. Best I can tell, it's no longer a perk of being an ACS member.
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