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Old 06-19-04, 05:39 AM   #1
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... But I have no doubt about which is the most disgusting and vile race.


Clearly, it is the Daytona 500.

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Old 06-19-04, 07:12 AM   #2
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... But I have no doubt about which is the most disgusting and vile race.


Clearly, it is the Daytona 500.

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Old 06-19-04, 09:53 AM   #3
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Old 06-19-04, 11:47 AM   #4
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Old 06-19-04, 01:23 PM   #5
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Im not a Nascar fan, but I can tell you that the tuning, tactics, technology and fan support are far and beyoned anything MTBing has to offer. Calling it stupid shows that you all indeed have the closed minds that you seem to be so against.
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Old 06-19-04, 01:51 PM   #6
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I'll watch an F1 race any day. NASCAR is boring. I do however, love the way they paint headlights on the cars so they look stock.
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Old 06-19-04, 02:46 PM   #7
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The engineering behind a NASCAR is absolutely riiculous. Tehy got over 700HP from a 350ci V8 using only the kind of american V-8 tech that existed back in the 1960's. The only electronics allowed are safety and diagnostic in nature....and even those are kept down to keep the weight low.

As far as painting headlights...headlights aren't allowed on NASCARS anymore...A dubious driver could have tehm maladjsuted to blind those ahead of him...but for sake of identifying what template the car was based off of, they paint headlights to teh car.

I said template since each major brand (ford, gm, and chrysler) all have a standard design for NASCAR. Now all 3 marks must have certain things exactly alike...but can have variances in other places, but still has to mmet a tight spec. Therefore why a ford template looks so much lile the other two and vice versa.

NASCAR was never truly "STOCK" car racing...The first NASCARs were cars used by bootleggers back in prohibition era. Their cars ahd to be faster than police cars...and still look plain enough to keep them anonymous. And back then, police had some rather formidable power under their hoods...so you can only imagine how fast some of tehse cars were for their time. That is where the strict tuning specs on the current generation came from...getting the most out of limited technology. The body is just to maximize safety.

It used to be about racing a souped up normal looking car...but those days are long gone. If you want normal looking cars...It's SCCA Showroom Stock...your not allowed to change ANYTHING.

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I know all that. I still think it's boring.
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Old 06-19-04, 03:32 PM   #9
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I know all that. I still think it's boring.
Yup. And I still think it's stupid.
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Old 06-19-04, 03:43 PM   #10
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Give me the OLD 500cc World GP any day! Pure poetry on two wheels. It's a shame they reworked the formula to allow four-strokers. EGAD! If I wanted to watch four stroke bikes run I'd watch WSB. Sheesh!
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i can appreciate the machinery, the technology, and the tactics (some of it is similiar to cycling) but i can't stand the vibe it gives off. it's just too big, the fans are too drunk, too loud, and it's all mixed in with an extra dose of american machosim.
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Old 06-19-04, 04:33 PM   #12
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Im not a Nascar fan, but I can tell you that the tuning, tactics, technology and fan support are far and beyoned anything MTBing has to offer. Calling it stupid shows that you all indeed have the closed minds that you seem to be so against.
I think you need to develop a real sense of humour.
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I think you need to develop a real sense of humour.
Was there something funny said? Oh i get it 'Race' like race car, not 'race' like group of people. Oh hahahha ehhehehhe hohohohoh. My side is literallys splitting open and draining into the floor. How witty. How comical. How ever did you develop such a keen sense of irony. Oh it hurts im laughing so hard. Oh jesus.
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Old 06-19-04, 06:46 PM   #14
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... But I have no doubt about which is the most disgusting and vile race.


Clearly, it is the Daytona 500.

Pure filth.
LOL
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Old 06-19-04, 07:31 PM   #15
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Was there something funny said? Oh i get it 'Race' like race car, not 'race' like group of people. Oh hahahha ehhehehhe hohohohoh. My side is literallys splitting open and draining into the floor. How witty. How comical. How ever did you develop such a keen sense of irony. Oh it hurts im laughing so hard. Oh jesus.




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Old 06-20-04, 04:07 AM   #16
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... But I have no doubt about which is the most disgusting and vile race.


Clearly, it is the Daytona 500.

Pure filth.
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actually those races can be really dirty.. i spent a lot of time at the indy last summer , smell and air full of tire dust. all those ppl at the fancy set up bars and restaurants near the track? it is common to have
debris flinging by your head, missing you if you are lucky

i rode my bike with paul tracy on the indy track hheeheh ..
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Old 06-20-04, 04:19 AM   #17
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... But I have no doubt about which is the most disgusting and vile race.


Clearly, it is the Daytona 500.

Pure filth.
I cannot understand why watching a bunch of basically formula racing cars with bodies made to resemble U.S. popular cars going around and around and around is so exciting. To me, it is almost as boring as watching bumpers rust. If they go on a road course, I may watch for one circuit, the last one, but still, they repeat the same course over and over and over. Boring.

Plus, sport? NASCAR or any form of auto-racint is not a sport. Anybody can sit in a car, stick their foot through the floorboard and turn left all day long. It takes an athlete to win a bicycle race.
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Old 06-20-04, 04:59 AM   #18
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If they go on a road course, I may watch for one circuit, the last one, but still, they repeat the same course over and over and over. Boring.
Yeah, kind of like watching a crit.
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Yup, there again, alot like cycling, there is no ball involved like in real sports.
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Old 06-20-04, 05:05 AM   #19
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debris flinging by your head, missing you if you are lucky
Just lately I'm wishing the debris on my rides would aim at my head rather than at my drivetrain. Three broken chains in a month in Tasmania last summer, a bent chainring last weekend -- all of these issues on tours a long way from home. This is getting annoying!




I'm beginning to think I should have posted this one in the jokes forum or something. It was actually a little play on words intended to be at least mildly amusing, but seems to have turned into a debate about Nascar.
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Just lately I'm wishing the debris on my rides would aim at my head rather than at my drivetrain. Three broken chains in a month in Tasmania last summer, a bent chainring last weekend -- all of these issues on tours a long way from home. This is getting annoying!
Well when you turn over as many miles as you do, who can be surprised by how many breakdowns you have.

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Yeah, kind of like watching a crit.
Who watches a crit? I am talking real cycle racing. Grand Tours and events like Liege-Bastogne-Liege.

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Who said anything about a ball. A sport is something were men or women compete against each other using their physical prowess. Auto racing is not a sport and drivers are not athletes. Sit on your but, hang onto the wheel, and turn left for a few hours. Yeah, boy that's really difficult. Ever see those old shows on Wide World of Sports where athletes from different sports competed against each other? Ever see a NASCAR or Formula I driver do anything but finish dead last?
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Just lately I'm wishing the debris on my rides would aim at my head rather than at my drivetrain. Three broken chains in a month in Tasmania last summer, a bent chainring last weekend -- all of these issues on tours a long way from home. This is getting annoying!




I'm beginning to think I should have posted this one in the jokes forum or something. It was actually a little play on words intended to be at least mildly amusing, but seems to have turned into a debate about Nascar.
lol i know, just used it as an excuse to say how nice paul tracy was and that riding on the indy track was sooooooooooooooo smooth.. can't wait til this year...
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Sport does not equal athlete, I think we would have to agree that in terms of coordination, strength, practice, and skill; dancers and figure skaters are tremendous athletes. However, even though both have competitions, I don't see them as "sports".
At the same time there are sports that involve relatively little athleticism, curling comes to mind. Sport involves strategy, tactics and some degree of physical skill. Cycling, to anyone that knows anything about it, clearly involves it all and is a sport with a strong athletic component. As someone that isn't into, I would have to concede that car racing of any kind is a sport on par with horse racing. There is no question in my mind that the drivers are more skilled drivers than average Joe on the freeway, just like the jockey at the Kentucky Derby are more skilled riders than average. Both are involved in sports with a lot of strategy and planning. They may not be my cup of tea, but they are sports in the sense of a competition that involves physical skill and strategy. Doesn't mean I have to watch them, any more than their fans have to watch Lance.
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Who said anything about a ball. A sport is something were men or women compete against each other using their physical prowess. Auto racing is not a sport and drivers are not athletes. Sit on your but, hang onto the wheel, and turn left for a few hours. Yeah, boy that's really difficult. Ever see those old shows on Wide World of Sports where athletes from different sports competed against each other? Ever see a NASCAR or Formula I driver do anything but finish dead last?
Car racing is a competition, not a sport.
My belief is that a sport must be self powered. By definition, golf is a sport, so's swimming, as is cycling, climbing, soccer, basketball, kick boxing, bum fighting, cheese rolling, curling, head banging, and nailing (only with a hammer, no pneumatics).
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