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    Why is hospital some sometimes not preceded by the articles the or a?

    Any English experts out there?

    Why is hospital some sometimes not preceded by the articles the or a? Most people that speak British English would say "I was taken to hospital", instead of "I was taken to a hospital" or "I was taken to the hospital". But I have been noticing a log of Americans dropping the article too. Is there any reason for dropping the article, other than laziness?

    I also find it interesting that most people would say "I was taken to the hospital" or "I need to go to the store", as if there is only one.

    OK language professors, weigh in.
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    I blame the Brits.
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    Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.

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    Lime flavored conspiracy!
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    I had to read the title of this thread several times to get the gist of what it's about.

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    The Brits can't spell either.
    A "u" in color, for shame.

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    And they call truck lorries and the sidewalk is a the pavement and potato chips are crisps and you won't believe what they call a pack of smokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colorider View Post
    Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.

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    what do they call a pack of cigarettes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snicklefritz View Post
    what do they call a pack of cigarettes?
    A pride parade?


    They call a cigarette a f  aggot, seriously.
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    Drive your soddin' lorry to hospital, arse about on the pavement while sucking on a ***, then take the lift up to the vend, drop some brass and Bob's your uncle! Enjoy an ace bag of crisps, but don't bite y'arm off.

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    I will give the Brits top score for creative name calling. I have a friend who called a shop keeper here "an old battle axe" after receiving very poor service. She has also referred to me as both an anorak and a big girl's blouse. I am quite sure neither were meant as compliments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colorider View Post
    Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.

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    Just don't ask for chips and salsa if you go to there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CbadRider View Post
    Just don't ask for chips and salsa if you go to there.
    Else you might end up in hospital whilst on holiday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by colorider View Post
    Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.

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    The English don't articles before nouns. The Canadians and Australians haven't had the time to move away from that.

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    There's another sad trend afoot in Pennsylvania. Illustrating the phenomenon will be clearer than attempting to describe it. The lazy folks say things like:

    "My car needs fixed."
    "The floor needs waxed."
    "This bottle needs opened."

    To which I often feel like replying: "Your butt needs kicked".
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
    There's another sad trend afoot in Pennsylvania. Illustrating the phenomenon will be clearer than attempting to describe it. The lazy folks say things like:

    "My car needs fixed."
    "The floor needs waxed."
    "This bottle needs opened."

    To which I often feel like replying: "Your butt needs kicked".
    are you serious? That's just awful!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
    There's another sad trend afoot in Pennsylvania. Illustrating the phenomenon will be clearer than attempting to describe it. The lazy folks say things like:

    "My car needs fixed."
    "The floor needs waxed."
    "This bottle needs opened."
    There's only one prescription for this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snicklefritz View Post
    are you serious? That's just awful!!!
    I am absolutely serious. I really have to restrain myself when I hear this nonsense.
    The search for inner peace continues...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snicklefritz View Post
    are you serious? That's just awful!!!
    Correct. This is how it should be said.
    Quote Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
    There's another sad trend afoot in Pennsylvania. Illustrating the phenomenon will be clearer than attempting to describe it. The lazy folks say things like:

    "My car needs fixin'."
    "The floor needs waxin'."
    "This bottle needs openin'."

    To which I often feel like replying: "Your butt needs kickin'."

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    In truth, the English are more consistent with their article use than American English speakers. We might say, "He went to the hospital," and,"She went to college." The English would say, "He went to hospital," and, "She went to college."

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    I hate the lack of article thing...must be my American blood asserting itself over my Canadian blood.

    Take off, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    In truth, the English are more consistent with their article use than American English speakers. We might say, "He went to the hospital," and,"She went to college." The English would say, "He went to hospital," and, "She went to college."

    I am shocked that the English are more consistent with English.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serendipper View Post
    I am shocked that the English are more consistent with English.
    To be fair, that is with their written English. Who know's what the hell they actually say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinnaker View Post

    I also find it interesting that most people would say "I was taken to the hospital" or "I need to go to the store", as if there is only one.

    OK language professors, weigh in.
    I imagine people do this because, in their mind, they are thinking about the store or hospital they regularly visit. Another explanation may be simply that stores and hospitals are often fungible, i.e. I can go to any store around me and get what I need (generally).

    I don't know about your other question. My girlfriend drops the infinitive marker sometimes. She is from South Africa, so she speaks British English (that's kind of redundant . . .). For example, she says "I'll try remember that." I have no idea how it developed though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
    To be fair, that is with their written English. Who know's what the hell they actually say.
    This is so not the thread for such things.

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