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Old 08-02-09, 05:23 AM   #1
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IE "vs" Google, Discussion

I was on the side lines of a interesting talk by a couple security experts about OS's, they are very concerned about Google's overwhelming net presence and prying eyes. It was said Google controls an extreme margin of advertising, data search and data collection also marketing, they have gotten so big that they have become a concern to many other security experts. It was brought up about Microsoft's dominance, one expert said that they were were not a "data collection agency" and were somewhat held in check by the myriad of other OS's. Then it was said well would that not be the case with Google, one expert said their foot hold in search and marketing will give them an unfair advantage and more opportunity to pry couple of people laughed. One expert said Microsoft is not in the marketing business a does very limited data collection their presence is pretty much limited to marketing their products where as Google is all about data collection and marketing, they says they track so much now that they are of concern to many security experts. I like many have run MS for many years, though in the early years I ran Zenix, Unix and all the early DOS stuff. I was following the blogs on Google wondering if a try was in order, but the conversation above has me thinking. I am sick and tired of things trying to pry into my life!

Did a little searching and came up with the following!
http://adage.com/mediaworks/article?article_id=138105
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives..._dominance.php

Will be very interested in other folks feelings on the subject!
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Old 08-02-09, 05:31 AM   #2
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microsoft + yahoo partnership to fight google.

http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/200907...icrosoft_yahoo
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I like how Google runs their business. At least they're open about their data mining and recording. Yahoo was, too. I actually used Yahoo's search engine exclusively until they announced their merger with Microsoft.

Why?

I don't trust Microsoft. Their merger lost Yahoo! a patron and gave him to Google.
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I was on the side lines of a interesting talk by a couple security experts about OS's, they are very concerned about Google's overwhelming net presence and prying eyes. It was said Google controls an extreme margin of advertising, data search and data collection also marketing, they have gotten so big that they have become a concern to many other security experts. It was brought up about Microsoft's dominance, one expert said that they were were not a "data collection agency" and were somewhat held in check by the myriad of other OS's. Then it was said well would that not be the case with Google, one expert said their foot hold in search and marketing will give them an unfair advantage and more opportunity to pry couple of people laughed. One expert said Microsoft is not in the marketing business a does very limited data collection their presence is pretty much limited to marketing their products where as Google is all about data collection and marketing, they says they track so much now that they are of concern to many security experts. I like many have run MS for many years, though in the early years I ran Zenix, Unix and all the early DOS stuff. I was following the blogs on Google wondering if a try was in order, but the conversation above has me thinking. I am sick and tired of things trying to pry into my life!

Did a little searching and came up with the following!
http://adage.com/mediaworks/article?article_id=138105
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives..._dominance.php

Will be very interested in other folks feelings on the subject!
First off, comparing IE to Google is like comparing a Ford F-150 to a banana pancake. I think you meant Microsoft Vs. Google, not IE vs. Google.

Then, DOS was also MS (see bold sentence above), unless you are referring to one of the rare non-MS DOS Operating Systems that were out there.

Anyway, I see it as a "pick your poison". MS may data mine, they may not, but they do snoop on your computer in other ways. Look at the settings in Windows Media Player....I suspect they check your music files for legitimacy (or at least have put in the framework to do so at some point if they choose).

As SS said, I don't TRUST Microsoft for the most part. I wouldn't put data snooping past them. That being said, I hate the way Google does it too.

Pick your poison. At least Google is up front about it and claim its only to target advertisements.
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Does nobody else remember this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4630694.stm

In short, Google refused to hand over collected search data and information to the Department of Defense, Yahoo gave some information over, and Microsoft happily handed over any information that was requested.
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Does nobody else remember this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4630694.stm

In short, Google refused to hand over collected search data and information to the Department of Defense, Yahoo gave some information over, and Microsoft happily handed over any information that was requested.
Yes, I do remember that.

I knew Yahoo gave over info to China too, when Google refused. I didn't know whether M$ did or not. It caused the imprisonment of some Chinese people who did nothing more than search for terms the government deemed illegal.

This is the reason I tried to boycott Yahoo as best I could. Unfortunately Y! was the first web based mail I had and I have too many things tied to it to quit the email account.
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So I am supposed to be worried if Google knows that I looked up directions to a gas station in Minneapolis? Oh, no!!
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