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Old 08-05-09, 11:15 AM   #1
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Baby-proofing the Kitchen!

Call out to parents' ideas or people who have experience in this area even if you aren't a parent yourself.

What have you done to baby-proof your broilers in the kitchen? Yes, I know it's really "baby-deterrent" as there is no such thing as "baby-proof."

I have the entire upstairs baby-proofed to the point where the 1-year-old can run around and he will be fine for a long time. I am darn proud of this and it's been working for the few months he has been running. (Keep in mind I never leave him alone, etc, but I know that I can sneeze and close my eyes for 1/32nd of a second and he won't get into trouble--heck, I even have the bookcases bolted to the walls.)

The issue, though, is that I can't keep him out of the broiler below the oven no matter what I do. I tried tying it closed and he just stretches the tie. I tried an "oven lock" but it doesn't make enough contact with the broiler to stick so it falls off. I can't figure out what to do. I have done so much Google research that my head is spinning and this topic isn't discussed anywhere--just the "oven" part of it, which is not enough as I need the "broiler" below the oven secured, too.

Any thoughts, ideas, etc? I can't possibly be the only dad who wants to keep a toddler out of the broiler.
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Old 08-05-09, 11:20 AM   #2
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My oldest son snuck into my mother's kitchen when she had the oven open on her oven/cooktop combo thing. She did not leave it unattended, he actually snuck up next to her as she was taking something out of the oven.

He placed his hands on the open door and got badly burned. The next few days were a challenge, but he never got close to the oven again. He would not turn his back on an open oven in fact, and would move very carefully through the kitchen if anyone was near the oven.

I do not have a real solution for you, but once burned, they learn quickly.
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Old 08-05-09, 11:23 AM   #3
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Ya, sometimes I come from the school of thought of "let him try it, then he will never do it again" but my wife doesn't go for that.

Whenever I am in the kitchen at this point, I make sure he is NOT in the kitchen and the baby gate between us is closed with him on the other side before I do anything in the kitchen. I would prefer if he could be in there with me and "help" me cook, do dishes, etc.
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How about "No!" or like above, sometimes they have to get an owie to learn.
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How about "No!" or like above, sometimes they have to get an owie to learn.
He's one year old. Do you have a one year old?
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Nope, sterile. Do they not understand the word "No?" i mean if the child is developed enough to run around...you'd think the kid would understand "gee daddy doesn't want me to do that."
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Amazon.com: Oven Front Lock: Baby Amazon.com: Oven Front Lock: Baby

Could you use something like that but screw it on instead of relying on the adhesive?
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Ya, sometimes I come from the school of thought of "let him try it, then he will never do it again" but my wife doesn't go for that.

Whenever I am in the kitchen at this point, I make sure he is NOT in the kitchen and the baby gate between us is closed with him on the other side before I do anything in the kitchen. I would prefer if he could be in there with me and "help" me cook, do dishes, etc.
If you can get him to sit in his highchair while you cook, it's a good way to involve him but keep him restrained. Give him a plastic bowl and dish towel and he can "help" you dry. Or give him a carrot to gnaw on while you cook.
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Nope, sterile. Do they not understand the word "No?" i mean if the child is developed enough to run around...you'd think the kid would understand "gee daddy doesn't want me to do that."
Even if he understands it, a one year old just doesn't have the impulse control to stop and think it through.
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Well, that sucks. This is why I prefer dogs.
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Well, that sucks. This is why I prefer dogs.
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Well, I prefer *my* dog who never in his 10 years of life has done something like that. Going into the trash, yes, stealing a Terry's Chocolate Orange and devouring it, yep. Oh and he once ate my custom night guard that I had made at the dentist. That's about it.
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Amazon.com: Oven Front Lock: Baby

Could you use something like that but screw it on instead of relying on the adhesive?
Ya, that is exactly what we have and what we tried. We have one for the oven and it works as pictured, but not for the broiler. I was going to screw it in, but it's rented property and it's some fancy broiler door and other than the rivets already in there, there is something hard behind the decorative paneling that wraps under the oven door before the broiler.

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If you can get him to sit in his highchair while you cook, it's a good way to involve him but keep him restrained. Give him a plastic bowl and dish towel and he can "help" you dry. Or give him a carrot to gnaw on while you cook.
We used to do this and it worked great until recently. Occasionally it still works, but it usually becomes a screaming match. (Carrot is still a choking hazzard, though.)

What is going to happen when he actually turns 2?!
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Watch "The Nanny"...seriously. I've seen her deal with the screaming high chair thing. Nip that kind of thing in the bud...
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Watch "The Nanny"...seriously. I've seen her deal with the screaming high chair thing. Nip that kind of thing in the bud...
Not to be an ass, but if you are giving me parenting advice from a television show and have no experience with children yourself, you comments are only making me very frustrated...
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I am not giving you any advice. I did do a LOT of babysitting when I was younger, but I distinctly remember The Nanny dealing with the temper tantrums/refusing high chair/other stuff. It seemed reasonable/not BS to me.

If you don't want EVERYONE commenting on your thread, put in the title "parents only" or something.
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Ya, that is exactly what we have and what we tried. We have one for the oven and it works as pictured, but not for the broiler. I was going to screw it in, but it's rented property and it's some fancy broiler door and other than the rivets already in there, there is something hard behind the decorative paneling that wraps under the oven door before the broiler.


We used to do this and it worked great until recently. Occasionally it still works, but it usually becomes a screaming match. (Carrot is still a choking hazzard, though.)

What is going to happen when he actually turns 2?!
Yeah, that screaming thing....

I meant a whole carrot, not a baby carrot. My kids could never get a big enough chunk off to be a choking hazard, although it did present itself as a weapon sometimes. But I have twins, so YMMV.

As for the Terrible Twos, I'd suggest seeing your doctor and asking for a prescription for an SSRI. If you're on one now, double your dosage.
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Yeah, that screaming thing.... But I have twins, so YMMV.
Haha! Does it work to just let them knock each other out?

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Or pick up a second job away from the house. (Kidding, since I really want to be a stay at home dad in the first place.)
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Can you put up a baby gate to close off the kitchen when the oven is on?
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I can't remember if either of my kids found that drawer in our old home.
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Is your concern for when the oven/broiler is on, or all the time?
Can you duct tape it shut? Can you remove the handle? Can you wedge something in there to prevent him from opening it? Have you tried a refridgerator lock?
How often does he try to open the drawer?
BTW, Forget 2, age three is much much worse.
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What is the harm in him "playing" with it? Our son used to take out all the baking racks and throw them around the kitchen. We only intervened when the oven was on.
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What is the harm in him "playing" with it? Our son used to take out all the baking racks and throw them around the kitchen. We only intervened when the oven was on.
It's an actual broiler and not under-oven storage for pots and pans. There are lots of sharp edges in the sheet metal, otherwise I certainly would let him play with it.

Plus, you can access the gas elements and pilot light from just behind the broiler door.
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UPDATE: My wife found a "new" type of lock from a very skeptical-looking website for $5 that we will give a try. They advertise that they are the only company that sells the type of lock in heat-resistant form, so we will give it a try and we would only be out $5 if it doesn't work.
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Call out to parents' ideas or people who have experience in this area even if you aren't a parent yourself.

What have you done to baby-proof your broilers in the kitchen? Yes, I know it's really "baby-deterrent" as there is no such thing as "baby-proof."

I have the entire upstairs baby-proofed to the point where the 1-year-old can run around and he will be fine for a long time. I am darn proud of this and it's been working for the few months he has been running. (Keep in mind I never leave him alone, etc, but I know that I can sneeze and close my eyes for 1/32nd of a second and he won't get into trouble--heck, I even have the bookcases bolted to the walls.)

The issue, though, is that I can't keep him out of the broiler below the oven no matter what I do. I tried tying it closed and he just stretches the tie. I tried an "oven lock" but it doesn't make enough contact with the broiler to stick so it falls off. I can't figure out what to do. I have done so much Google research that my head is spinning and this topic isn't discussed anywhere--just the "oven" part of it, which is not enough as I need the "broiler" below the oven secured, too.

Any thoughts, ideas, etc? I can't possibly be the only dad who wants to keep a toddler out of the broiler.
LOL - I had to KITTEN proof my place. I mean she's already down to 7-1/2 lives with her many mishaps. If it can be opened, bitten or touched - she's into it.

When I moved in - I couldn't find her for a while - was starting to really get worried. And when I was talking to Mom - I casually opened up the bottom drawer on the stove - and Ming came rolling out.

So another job on the list - somehow shore up the back of the oven.
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