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Old 08-06-09, 10:41 AM   #1
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When a job change is helpful to the career

The background:

I've got a job. I mostly like it. I don't make much. It's not exactly in line with what I want to do in the long term.

A job has come up locally that looks interesting, is in a related field, and incorporates some key elements of what I would like to do long-term. It would come with a 50% increase in pay.

Realistically they are looking for a little more experience on the job than I have.
Realistically I do have the general skills they are looking for aside from the above.
Realistically I would think they would hire someone a little more qualified.

The question:

I have worked at my current job less than a year. It seems, to me, to be in bad taste to leave it already assuming the unlikely and I were to get the job. This is the first salaried job I've ever held.

Discuss.
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Old 08-06-09, 10:44 AM   #2
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Go for it. Just make sure your current place doesn't know. You sound like you're interested.
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Employers are not faithful to employees. Look at the job loss stats Tim. Their only concern is to the bottom line. To a point, loyalty is altruistic and admirable, but I say you should interview for the other position.
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Old 08-06-09, 10:46 AM   #4
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Go for it. Just make sure your current place doesn't know. You sound like you're interested.
Well, there is no question about my interest in the other position. I've just made a habit of not leaving a bad taste in the mouths of those that I've worked for (with the exception of a factory job I held two years ago, but since they treat their employees like dogs, they can f themselves).

If i were to leave suddenly, it would place a lot of stress on the staff here.

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Employers are not faithful to employees. Look at the job loss stats Tim. Their only concern is to the bottom line. To a point, loyalty is altruistic and admirable, but I say you should interview for the other position.
I think if I worked in the private sector I would have this mindset without question. I work for a non-profit that helps kids. We have made cuts though. My job is awfully safe though, as it integral part of what we do and I've made myself fairly valuable beyond my title.
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Old 08-06-09, 10:48 AM   #5
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If i were to leave suddenly, it would place a lot of stress on the staff here.
I used to think like this. But then I realized that any place of work will get by just fine.
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Old 08-06-09, 11:07 AM   #6
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There are people out there without jobs who could fill your current position. We are not nearly as indispensable as we all hope for. If you have a better opportunity, take it. You can help yourself and help someone who needs a job. 50% pay increase and more challenges are very real incentives.

I am assuming you are young, in your 20s. It is very common to have multiple jobs at this point in your life. My only caution would be to be mindful of future job security. You don't want to take the new job only to be laid off in a few months, when you could've been secure in your current position.
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Also, you don't have to leave suddenly. Give a few weeks notice, maybe a month if possible. Offer to help transition a new employee. Your current employer will understand. I've been there.
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Employers are not faithful to employees. Look at the job loss stats Tim. Their only concern is to the bottom line. To a point, loyalty is altruistic and admirable, but I say you should interview for the other position.
And as nice as nonprofits are and as much as you think you might be indispensable, if you're in the way of the bottom line, you're gone.

Go for the job.
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stop wondering....go get the job first, get an offer

then decide


otherwise it is speculation
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Well, there is no question about my interest in the other position. I've just made a habit of not leaving a bad taste in the mouths of those that I've worked for (with the exception of a factory job I held two years ago, but since they treat their employees like dogs, they can f themselves).

If i were to leave suddenly, it would place a lot of stress on the staff here.



I think if I worked in the private sector I would have this mindset without question. I work for a non-profit that helps kids. We have made cuts though. My job is awfully safe though, as it integral part of what we do and I've made myself fairly valuable beyond my title.

Layoffs place a lot of stress on employees. You think employers give a s**t? Just sayin'.

You could also look at it as opening a slot for a job seeker. How's that for rationalization? If the organization is a good one, someone will pursue your slot. Likely, your old org will have people beating down the door, in this economy.

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Listen to the wisdom of those above. Businesses they do have a bottom line and will NOT hesitate to drop you and weep with you at the same time. Non-profits are the most likely to weep you out the door.

Look out for your bottom line and your future opportunities. It's business.
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The background:

I've got a job. I mostly like it. I don't make much. It's not exactly in line with what I want to do in the long term.

A job has come up locally that looks interesting, is in a related field, and incorporates some key elements of what I would like to do long-term. It would come with a 50% increase in pay.

Realistically they are looking for a little more experience on the job than I have.
Realistically I do have the general skills they are looking for aside from the above.
Realistically I would think they would hire someone a little more qualified.

The question:

I have worked at my current job less than a year. It seems, to me, to be in bad taste to leave it already assuming the unlikely and I were to get the job. This is the first salaried job I've ever held.

Discuss.
Apply for the job on the down-low, don't quit current fail job unless you get hired at new job. Remember: There is no loyalty in business, it's business. I'm bailing on a job I've had around 10 months to go into something entirely different.
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Funny how things work. This thing didn't pan out...

I was offered a job yesterday that is a no brainer.
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Funny how things work. This thing didn't pan out...

I was offered a job yesterday that is a no brainer.
Congrats.
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